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Posted on Mar 4, 2017, 12:16 pm
#121
Helloworld, why do you care so much for someone that keeps attacking a doctor for some bad cases without ever mentioning that there are much more good cases too?
For veteran LL'ers like me, the real evidence of a doctor's work is the x rays of the patients and then everything else. And from the Xrays I saw from 3 Monegal's patiemts (yours, Yagen and Antonio) his work is professional.

We are talking for an internal nail ffs, not for a complicated ilizarov fixator, most of the professional doctors can put an internal nail safely in femurs, so imo most of the doctors that do surgeries in the west countries and in up to date hospitals are good options.
And Monegal's price is much more sensible compared to ridiculous prices like Guichet and then Betz who both have old fashioned nails compared to fit bone. America's doctors are much pricier but I think they are maybe the best (I'm talking about Paley and Rozbruch) and also prices in USA are much higher for everything that has to do with health, but in EU I truly believe that is ridiculous for a French doctor with an ancient nail to have prices like 60-70k euros, make patients real athletes before surgery and still have most of the times mediocre outcomes. You all know for whom I'm talking.

So, for Europe and if his prices stay the same, dr Monegal seems a good choice for me, at least from what I saw eith my own eyes from patients X rays.
But I must see some more diaries to trust him so much to think to do my femur LL with him.

Helloworld, keep strong!
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Posted on Mar 4, 2017, 12:30 pm
#122
Quote from: Body Builder on March 04, 2017, 12:16:03 PMFor veteran LL'ers like me, the real evidence of a doctor's work is the x rays of the patients and then everything else. And from the Xrays I saw from 3 Monegal's patiemts (yours, Yagen and Antonio) his work is professional.
Man, I feel left out  Limb lengthening with Fitbone
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Posted on Mar 4, 2017, 1:34 pm
#123
Quote from: Auron on March 04, 2017, 12:30:01 PMMan, I feel left out  Limb lengthening with Fitbone
You are right.
I've seen yours also my friend and they are maybe the best of all Monegal's patients I've seen, although that has to do with your fast bone consolidation because and the other patients x rays was good without anything weird.

My apologies.  Limb lengthening with Fitbone
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Posted on Mar 4, 2017, 3:28 pm
#124
Quote from: helloworld on March 04, 2017, 08:47:33 AMNotimportant, thanks for your advice. You can rest assured that I have never lied in this forum, nor tried to make people think certain positive things that I do not believe myself.
There are many other patients apart from Cooper but none of them is patient of Monegal. In fact, I think Monegal has almost as amny patients that asked him to do corrections from LL surgery they had done with several Russian doctors, Mitkovic and Guichet, as new cosmetic limb lengthening patients. Also, from all the patients I met, I met 8 patients that are all doing fine, apart from having muscle tension and sometimes even pain, but no complication, except for myself who had to have a fitbone replaced. The only one is musicmaker, who did have a lot of problems, due to primarily bad luck and also implant failure, and probably also some doctor and patient fault. But even musicmaker highly recommends Dr. Monegal!!!

I admit that when I chose Dr. Monegal I thought: "This is cheapest option in internal limb lengthening within developed countries and I do not see any reason why he would be worse than the other options like Paley, Baumgart or Guichet." However, this has changed to "OMG I got not only the cheapest but also the best, better than Paley, Baumgart and Guichet."

About Dr. Monegal inviting us to "buy" promotion or "buy" silence: I know that he also has invited other patients twice to watch football games of FC Barcelona and neither patient has a diary. I felt the real reason was that Dr. Monegal was extremely happy when the x-rays of all the patients where good, even that of musicmaker, because it was right after he saw the musicmaker's x-rays that he invited all of us, while being at the clinic together.

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Posted on Mar 4, 2017, 3:39 pm
#125
Quote from: helloworld on March 04, 2017, 08:47:33 AMNotimportant, thanks for your advice. You can rest assured that I have never lied in this forum, nor tried to make people think certain positive things that I do not believe myself.
There are many other patients apart from Cooper but none of them is patient of Monegal. In fact, I think Monegal has almost as amny patients that asked him to do corrections from LL surgery they had done with several Russian doctors, Mitkovic and Guichet, as new cosmetic limb lengthening patients. Also, from all the patients I met, I met 8 patients that are all doing fine, apart from having muscle tension and sometimes even pain, but no complication, except for myself who had to have a fitbone replaced. The only one is musicmaker, who did have a lot of problems, due to primarily bad luck and also implant failure, and probably also some doctor and patient fault. But even musicmaker highly recommends Dr. Monegal!!!

I admit that when I chose Dr. Monegal I thought: "This is cheapest option in internal limb lengthening within developed countries and I do not see any reason why he would be worse than the other options like Paley, Baumgart or Guichet." However, this has changed to "OMG I got not only the cheapest but also the best, better than Paley, Baumgart and Guichet."

About Dr. Monegal inviting us to "buy" promotion or "buy" silence: I know that he also has invited other patients twice to watch football games of FC Barcelona and neither patient has a diary. I felt the real reason was that Dr. Monegal was extremely happy when the x-rays of all the patients where good, even that of musicmaker, because it was right after he saw the musicmaker's x-rays that he invited all of us, while being at the clinic together.

Wasn't this charming gentleman an inspiration to write this post?

Limb lengthening with Fitbone
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Posted on Mar 4, 2017, 3:48 pm
#126
Quote from: Body Builder on March 04, 2017, 12:16:03 PMHelloworld, why do you care so much for someone that keeps attacking a doctor for some bad cases without ever mentioning that there are much more good cases too?
For veteran LL'ers like me, the real evidence of a doctor's work is the x rays of the patients and then everything else. And from the Xrays I saw from 3 Monegal's patiemts (yours, Yagen and Antonio) his work is professional.

We are talking for an internal nail ffs, not for a complicated ilizarov fixator, most of the professional doctors can put an internal nail safely in femurs, so imo most of the doctors that do surgeries in the west countries and in up to date hospitals are good options.
And Monegal's price is much more sensible compared to ridiculous prices like Guichet and then Betz who both have old fashioned nails compared to fit bone. America's doctors are much pricier but I think they are maybe the best (I'm talking about Paley and Rozbruch) and also prices in USA are much higher for everything that has to do with health, but in EU I truly believe that is ridiculous for a French doctor with an ancient nail to have prices like 60-70k euros, make patients real athletes before surgery and still have most of the times mediocre outcomes. You all know for whom I'm talking.

So, for Europe and if his prices stay the same, dr Monegal seems a good choice for me, at least from what I saw eith my own eyes from patients X rays.
But I must see some more diaries to trust him so much to think to do my femur LL with him.

Helloworld, keep strong!
Bodybuilder, thanks for your encouragement.
I respond to Notimportant because I think he is quite knowledgable and has no bad intentions, just strong opinions based on one-sided or wrong information.

I do not respond to people like YourSpaceBoyfriend, who post images that some people could consider ofensive into my diary.
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Posted on Mar 4, 2017, 4:29 pm
#127
Quote from: helloworld on March 04, 2017, 03:48:57 PMBodybuilder, thanks for your encouragement.
I respond to Notimportant because I think he is quite knowledgable and has no bad intentions, just strong opinions based on one-sided or wrong information.

I do not respond to people like YourSpaceBoyfriend, who post images that some people could consider ofensive into my diary.

However, this has changed to "OMG I got not only the cheapest but also the best, better than Paley, Baumgart and Guichet."
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Posted on Mar 4, 2017, 9:06 pm
#128
Bodybuilder you havent' seen the xrays I've seen. Osteotomies were really poor. There were other issues with other patients: nail failure and screws loose, poor bone formation due to poor osteotomies, soft tissues problems for many patients, permanent nerve damage in teenage boy and nerve damage for others. Good cases, yes there are but there is virtually no patient without complication.
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Posted on Mar 4, 2017, 10:20 pm
#129
Quote from: notimportant on March 04, 2017, 01:46:56 AMHelloworld I would ask you not to lie but you have become like all Spaniards.

This statement is somewhat xenophobic, isn't it? And it is not the first:

Quote from: notimportant on February 19, 2017, 04:20:25 PMSpanish people liars.

Funny thing is that it comes from a guy who has denied being LLuser1 although it is blatantly obvious that he is. That's a liar in my book... Dude, how about a bit of self-criticism before insulting a whole country?

Quote from: Body Builder on March 04, 2017, 12:16:03 PMFor veteran LL'ers like me, the real evidence of a doctor's work is the x rays of the patients and then everything else.

We have had our differences but I applaud this idea.
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Posted on Mar 4, 2017, 10:40 pm
#130
Quote from: notimportant on March 04, 2017, 09:06:09 PMBodybuilder you havent' seen the xrays I've seen. Osteotomies were really poor. There were other issues with other patients: nail failure and screws loose, poor bone formation due to poor osteotomies, soft tissues problems for many patients, permanent nerve damage in teenage boy and nerve damage for others. Good cases, yes there are but there is virtually no patient without complication.
  • Nail failure: You are right. I am aware of two case: helloworld and musicmaker. Not a big problem though, Dr. replaced the nail.
    Screw loose: You are right, though I have not met any patients (I met around 10) where it happened. But this is and even smaller problem. Just fix screw.
    Poor osteotomies: Please provide some evidence.
    Soft tissue problem: should depend solely on patient, and lengthening speed. The lengthening speed is same or less than elsewhere, so there should not be more soft tissue problems.
    Permanent nerve damage: Most likely to be caused by patient lengthening at very high speed. There was one patient trying to max his height gains, lengthening 2mm a day, where this might have happened.
    Good cases: All the people I have seen with my own eyes were good cases, except musicmaker.
Every doctor has some complications but as far as I am aware Dr. Monegal has less than others. Notimportant, do you think that Monegal has had more than Paley, Rozbruch, Betz, Baumgart or Guichet.
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