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Posted on Feb 28, 2017, 10:06 pm

#101

You aren't right. He hasn't a university degree at all. I have been talking to some people. Claudio lied he was a doctor and a physiotherapist and expatients have screenshots to prove that he said that so the guy could go to JAIL. I can send this to moderators. Yes JAIL. YES ILLEGAL. He said publicly he was a physiotherapist and he worked as such but he wasn't. I can't understand why this doctor decided to keep him when he lied deliberately to EVERYBODY (PATIENTS AND PEOPLE IN THE INTERNET) about his credentials. He's just the illiterate guy who cleans the operating room and does Xrays in operating room but has no clue about medicine or physiotherapy.

One user in the forum has just sent me this PM,

QuoteClaudio works un clínica diagonal. He works un the radiology team. But he isnt a doctor, he works with the xrays.
He IS not a physio and he charges 1200 euros for a pack of sessions for Two months (around 30 sessionsThats) or 40 euros per session.Thats a lot in Spain. Most physios doesnt charge more than 30 euros per session and they they are true physios. Claudio IS a personal trainer. But he hasnt got any universitary title.
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Other guy told me in Spain good personal trainers have a degree in sport science but this guy hasn't a degree and charges more than real physhios and trainers. This guy also told me there are many expatients who are not happy with Claudio and he should be exposed.

The reason Helloworld says for choosing him is BS. The doctor could talk every week to real physiotherapist and not to a fake one who lies. If he's a close friend that's not a good reason to choose him. Only a dishonest doctor would allow a shady guy to take advantage of his patients like this.

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You aren't right. He hasn't a university degree at all. I have been talking to some people. Claudio lied he was a doctor and a physiotherapist and expatients have screenshots to prove that he said that so the guy could go to JAIL. I can send this to moderators. Yes JAIL. YES ILLEGAL. He said publicly he was a physiotherapist and he worked as such but he wasn't. I can't understand why this doctor decided to keep him when he lied deliberately to EVERYBODY (PATIENTS AND PEOPLE IN THE INTERNET) about his credentials. He's just the illiterate guy who cleans the operating room and does Xrays in operating room but has no clue about medicine or physiotherapy.

One user in the forum has just sent me this PM,

QuoteClaudio works un clínica diagonal. He works un the radiology team. But he isnt a doctor, he works with the xrays.
He IS not a physio and he charges 1200 euros for a pack of sessions for Two months (around 30 sessionsThats) or 40 euros per session.Thats a lot in Spain. Most physios doesnt charge more than 30 euros per session and they they are true physios. Claudio IS a personal trainer. But he hasnt got any universitary title.
Report To Admin

Other guy told me in Spain good personal trainers have a degree in sport science but this guy hasn't a degree and charges more than real physhios and trainers. This guy also told me there are many expatients who are not happy with Claudio and he should be exposed.

The reason Helloworld says for choosing him is BS. The doctor could talk every week to real physiotherapist and not to a fake one who lies. If he's a close friend that's not a good reason to choose him. Only a dishonest doctor would allow a shady guy to take advantage of his patients like this.

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Posted on Feb 28, 2017, 10:24 pm

#102

Notimportant, it seems that you are better informed than me. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

But I know that in my case Claudio suggested to do less sessions per week as I was recovering fast, and he suggested to do only 15 sessions in total, for which I paid 500 euro.

Why would the Doctor recommend him, if it was not for the fact that he trusted Claudio to do a good job? Do you think that the Doctor gets maybe a 10% commission, 50 euro? Do you think the Doctor would care about 50 euro?

And do you think it is possible to be good at something without having a certificate in it? For example, do you think LeBron James could play basketball well, even without having a certifate in basketball nor having completed university? Or do you think Leo Messi is able to play football?

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Posted on Feb 28, 2017, 10:28 pm

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Quote from: helloworld on February 28, 2017, 10:24:30 PMNotimportant, it seems that you are better informed than me. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

But I know that in my case Claudio suggested to do less sessions per week as I was recovering fast, and he suggested to do only 15 sessions in total, for which I paid 500 euro.

Why would the Doctor recommend him, if it was not for the fact that he trusted Claudio to do a good job? Do you think that the Doctor gets maybe a 10% commission, 50 euro? Do you think the Doctor would care about 50 euro?

And do you think it is possible to be good at something without having a certificate in it? For example, do you think LeBron James could play basketball well, even without having a certifate in basketball nor having completed university? Or do you think Leo Messi is able to play football?

Are you seriously comparing a sport to getting a degree in physiotherapy? It's the same logic of comparing LeBron to a doctor. Someone can be a good surgeon without studying no?

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Posted on Feb 28, 2017, 10:43 pm

#104

Would you trust a doctor who isn't licensed to work as a doctor? We're playing with human health. It's your legs. When your bone and soft tissues have been damaged you need a physiotherapist to take care of you not a personal trainer or in this case a clueless person with no degree. Yes degrees are important. You have a Phd. You should know.

One of the guys told me Claudio can't barely speak English so there were constant misunderstandings with international patients about how to manage recovery. He didn't know the name of the muscles. Be careful because he doesn't know what he is doing and can hurt you like he did to other expatients. They also told me the guy watches you biking and stretches you for 10 or 15 min. Is it worth 40$? Answer is no. Get a real cheaper PT who knows what he's doing.

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Posted on Mar 1, 2017, 2:10 pm

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I got the PhD in order to have something people recognize, but it did not make me any smarter.
I thought it helps that the "physio", even if he might have that certificate, talk to Dr. Monegal regularly and has treated many patients, who have undergone the same procedure.

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Posted on Mar 1, 2017, 3:54 pm

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From an outside perspective, it's amazing how much people defend Monegal and his practices regardless of what they are - including ~~blatant advertisement~~ sorry, recommendations of his in other diaries of patients under other doctors. He's either the best doctor in the world to earn such a defense or there is another reason which I am unaware of. Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable with an unlicensed physiotherapist masquerading as a licensed one regardless of how competent he is - there are certain professional levels expected in relation to medical procedure.

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Posted on Mar 1, 2017, 6:09 pm

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Quote from: 682 on March 01, 2017, 03:54:46 PMFrom an outside perspective, it's amazing how much people defend Monegal and his practices regardless of what they are - including ~~blatant advertisement~~ sorry, recommendations of his in other diaries of patients under other doctors. He's either the best doctor in the world to earn such a defense or there is another reason which I am unaware of. Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable with an unlicensed physiotherapist masquerading as a licensed one regardless of how competent he is - there are certain professional levels expected in relation to medical procedure.

Why wouldn't we when we see the blatant lies and character assassinations here when what we have experienced firsthand is the complete opposite? Regarding Claudio, have you bothered to find out the facts first before jumping on the bandwagon with your snide and cowardly comments?

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Posted on Mar 1, 2017, 6:41 pm

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Quote from: Antonio on March 01, 2017, 06:09:54 PMWhy wouldn't we when we see the blatant lies and character assassinations here when what we have experienced firsthand is the complete opposite?

Refuting the claims with your own personal experience is completely understandable and important for this forum, my issue is with those who consistently deny that there have been complications under Monegal to which he was responsible and the manner they do it in, it almost borders into fanaticism in the way they are written, always aggressive, often abusive and usually very written in a very similar way to those who dare criticize. I just find it very odd and your response does very little to disprove it with the way you have reacted.

The posts that are almost advertisements for Monegal on completely unrelated threads I completely disagree with.

QuoteRegarding Claudio, have you bothered to find out the facts first before jumping on the bandwagon with your snide and cowardly comments?

Why are the facts regarding Claudio being a licensed or unlicensed physiotherapist relevant to the comment I made? I didn't intimate either way that he was or wasn't licensed, in fact I don't believe I mentioned Claudio at all. What I did say was;

'Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable with an unlicensed physiotherapist masquerading as a licensed one regardless of how competent he is - there are certain professional levels expected in relation to medical procedure.

Which was mostly in response to helloworld stating;

QuoteAnd do you think it is possible to be good at something without having a certificate in it? For example, do you think LeBron James could play basketball well, even without having a certifate in basketball nor having completed university? Or do you think Leo Messi is able to play football?

Which appeared to state that whether a physiotherapist was or wasn't qualified wasn't important. I will repeat what I said once more, I wouldn't be comfortable with an unlicensed physiotherapist masquerading as a licensed one regardless of how competent he is - there are certain professional levels expected in relation to medical procedure and I stand by it. I meant this in an all encompassing sense about any and all doctors offering physical therapy. Whether Claudio is or isn't really is beside the point of my post and I am not particularly interested.

I have no reason nor intent to criticize or attack Dr Monegal or any other doctor and am certainly not on anybody's 'bandwagon', my post was tongue in cheek and more critical of users here and how the manner in which they react in any discussion of Monegal - clearly somewhat accurate. Your aggressive and condescending manner as a representative patient in responses to absolutely any comment is likely more damaging to Dr Monegal than the initial criticism. Have a good evening Antonio.

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Quote from: Antonio on March 01, 2017, 06:09:54 PMWhy wouldn't we when we see the blatant lies and character assassinations here when what we have experienced firsthand is the complete opposite?

Refuting the claims with your own personal experience is completely understandable and important for this forum, my issue is with those who consistently deny that there have been complications under Monegal to which he was responsible and the manner they do it in, it almost borders into fanaticism in the way they are written, always aggressive, often abusive and usually very written in a very similar way to those who dare criticize. I just find it very odd and your response does very little to disprove it with the way you have reacted.

The posts that are almost advertisements for Monegal on completely unrelated threads I completely disagree with.

QuoteRegarding Claudio, have you bothered to find out the facts first before jumping on the bandwagon with your snide and cowardly comments?

Why are the facts regarding Claudio being a licensed or unlicensed physiotherapist relevant to the comment I made? I didn't intimate either way that he was or wasn't licensed, in fact I don't believe I mentioned Claudio at all. What I did say was;

'Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable with an unlicensed physiotherapist masquerading as a licensed one regardless of how competent he is - there are certain professional levels expected in relation to medical procedure.

Which was mostly in response to helloworld stating;

QuoteAnd do you think it is possible to be good at something without having a certificate in it? For example, do you think LeBron James could play basketball well, even without having a certifate in basketball nor having completed university? Or do you think Leo Messi is able to play football?

Which appeared to state that whether a physiotherapist was or wasn't qualified wasn't important. I will repeat what I said once more, I wouldn't be comfortable with an unlicensed physiotherapist masquerading as a licensed one regardless of how competent he is - there are certain professional levels expected in relation to medical procedure and I stand by it. I meant this in an all encompassing sense about any and all doctors offering physical therapy. Whether Claudio is or isn't really is beside the point of my post and I am not particularly interested.

I have no reason nor intent to criticize or attack Dr Monegal or any other doctor and am certainly not on anybody's 'bandwagon', my post was tongue in cheek and more critical of users here and how the manner in which they react in any discussion of Monegal - clearly somewhat accurate. Your aggressive and condescending manner as a representative patient in responses to absolutely any comment is likely more damaging to Dr Monegal than the initial criticism. Have a good evening Antonio.

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Posted on Mar 1, 2017, 6:46 pm

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im so exited for you

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Posted on Mar 1, 2017, 7:25 pm

#110

Having a physiotherapist is very important. I wouldn't trust a person who isn't a true physiotherapist. The worst part is Claudio lied and said he was a physiotherapist. Expatients can prove it because they went to the College to check. Besides he isn't so competent because some people were hurt by him according to notimportant. Antonio did you have physical therapy with him? Can you prove he is a physiotherapist? Helloworld is kind of accepting he isn't a physiotherapist so I guess Notimportant is right.

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