Limb lengthening with Fitbone

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Quote from: Body Builder on May 19, 2017, 07:32:49 PMThis is nonsense and I wonder how a doctor could say such a thing.

By lengthening only one segment mean that the biomechanics of the foot are completely out.
Even a 2 segment lengthening to keep the proportions of the foot the same would make the running slower and more unstable because the stretching of soft tissues change their abilities and they are not as capabke as before lengthening.

So I am completely sure and all patients and doctors know that noone can be as capable as before LL. If you find someone who says that he runs faster, walk for more distances, is more stable etc after LL, then he is a liar. But I've never seen anyone to say that.
Some patient reach close to 90% while others maybe less than 70% (I am not talking for extreme lengthenings or major complications).
Anything more than 80% is a very good outcome.

But be faster than before is a joke.
I wonder how Monegal said something like that.

@LL south america: if someone is completely untrained before LL and work out a lot after LL maybe he will reach the 90% of pre LL condition.
But you compare someone who doesn't train before LL with someone (even the same person) who train a lot after LL. This is a nonsense comparison because we talk about the body's capabilities before and after LL which are worse after. So if you worked out the same before and after LL, before you would have been from 10 to 30% better.

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Quote from: Body Builder on May 19, 2017, 07:32:49 PMThis is nonsense and I wonder how a doctor could say such a thing.

By lengthening only one segment mean that the biomechanics of the foot are completely out.
Even a 2 segment lengthening to keep the proportions of the foot the same would make the running slower and more unstable because the stretching of soft tissues change their abilities and they are not as capabke as before lengthening.

So I am completely sure and all patients and doctors know that noone can be as capable as before LL. If you find someone who says that he runs faster, walk for more distances, is more stable etc after LL, then he is a liar. But I've never seen anyone to say that.
Some patient reach close to 90% while others maybe less than 70% (I am not talking for extreme lengthenings or major complications).
Anything more than 80% is a very good outcome.

But be faster than before is a joke.
I wonder how Monegal said something like that.

@LL south america: if someone is completely untrained before LL and work out a lot after LL maybe he will reach the 90% of pre LL condition.
But you compare someone who doesn't train before LL with someone (even the same person) who train a lot after LL. This is a nonsense comparison because we talk about the body's capabilities before and after LL which are worse after. So if you worked out the same before and after LL, before you would have been from 10 to 30% better.

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Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on May 19, 2017, 08:36:49 PMYou think he will reach the 90 % of pre LL condition but it's possible to reach even 100%. Of course your THEORETICAL body capabilities are worse after LL. But for your own functionality, if you work hard you could achieve at least what you have before. Imagine my body could run 100 m in 11 s (this is the ideal top for my body in my top condition), but I run 100 m in 12 s (before LL, because I was untrained). If I trained a lot after LL perhaps my ideal mark for my body is no longer 11 s but 11.5 s. After LL I trained for years and my mark is 11.7 seconds.

What are the results... I'm faster than my pre LL state even if the damage of my body is permanent and I lost some potential. I mean it could be possible. But as helloworld I will try to prove you wrong

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Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on May 19, 2017, 08:36:49 PMYou think he will reach the 90 % of pre LL condition but it's possible to reach even 100%. Of course your THEORETICAL body capabilities are worse after LL. But for your own functionality, if you work hard you could achieve at least what you have before. Imagine my body could run 100 m in 11 s (this is the ideal top for my body in my top condition), but I run 100 m in 12 s (before LL, because I was untrained). If I trained a lot after LL perhaps my ideal mark for my body is no longer 11 s but 11.5 s. After LL I trained for years and my mark is 11.7 seconds.

What are the results... I'm faster than my pre LL state even if the damage of my body is permanent and I lost some potential. I mean it could be possible. But as helloworld I will try to prove you wrong

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Quote from: Body Builder on May 19, 2017, 09:44:31 PMIf we talked about 0.5 seconds yes, you would have been right.
But if you ran at 11s before LL, after LL you would be close to 16s if everything went well.
So even if you try hard to make 16s something like 14s, still you won't be close to 11s that your body could do before LL.

90% rehabilitation has to do with your overall condition. The difference in times would be much higher than just a 10%.

Anyway, I really don't think a person who is not a professional athlete should care so much for all these.
If he does, then he should not do LL.
Every sensible LL'er should be ok with a normal walking, no pains, the ability to run relatively fast and some good balance.
If he had all these, things important for a normal life, plus a better height and all the benefits from it, he should be really happy.
Even if you run 30-40% slower I can't understand why is it a big deal.

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Quote from: Four Inch on May 20, 2017, 11:53:52 AMHelloworld, your videos are very much inspiring; considering the length of time since your procedure, I am extremely encouraged.  With your level of determination, I'm confident you will reach your pre-LL running times.   It's amazing what one can accomplish with determination.

That is the thing with Dr. Monegal, it's sometimes hard to tell if he is joking or serious; he has sort of a dry since of humor. ( as do I).   If he were to ask me to offer him any constructive criticism, it would be to try to speak with absolute precision when conversing with his patients.  With that being said, I am very happy that I selected Dr. Monegal; he has a great personality and I truly believe I am in both skilled and caring hands.

Good Luck!

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