Patientprivacy said that there are some drama seekers in the forum who aren’t interested in LL, but in some patients’ drama, and it’s true, but I have also noticed that some people in the forum try to dismiss those dramas as bullcrap. That’s equally concerning.
While people searching for drama are abhorrent, people who make others think this surgery is a walk in the park are also annoying. What I’m telling is that when some real patients complain about their complications, their experiences shouldn’t be dismissed as those of a negative, toxic complainer because these patients complain for a reason, and I can confirm you that these complications exist, and that many complications go unreported in this forum.
LL is major surgery and should be taken seriously. Don’t underestimate the fact that some guys exaggerate when talking about their recovery processes because testosterone doesn’t allow them to admit that they used to cry like babies when they were in pain. People who have the guts to admit they have been suffering a lot deserve all our admiration.
LL hurts, mofos! You need baLLs for this
Painkillers
Not enough for all the pain that comes with complications, additional surgeries, and emotional distress.
When something is worrying you a lot and making you depressed, no pain will stop you from seeking what will clear your mind and make you happy again. As long as it doesn't kill you, it's bearable.
Quote from: Uppland on January 12, 2015, 03:34:47 PMI want to renew the discussion of permanent effects because I think people on here are too optimistic -naive- even about what this surgery means. The general consensus seems to be: "I'tll be tough but I'm going to get through it and then I'll enjoy being tall for the rest of my life -who cares about muscle stiffness or knee pain I was never into sports anyway."
Not only will this mindset lead to a rude awekening but it can be outright dangerous as stated in this thread: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=680.0
Limb lenghtening is dangerous, it can even be life-threatening here are a number of common complications that can occour. Each one is quite unlikely but altogether there is a very real chance that one or more of these will happen to you:
The scary part is that this can happen to anyone regardless if you pay a million euros or 5 thousand. It has happened in Germany and the US so we aren't safe just because we go with a respected surgeon.
Even if you make it through unscathed you will never recover fully -well you might if you only do 2CM but then what's the point?
No you will have hurt your body in a very real sense and in such a way that no doctor can ever fix it. I know a lot of you might think that you can deal with some issues and that it's a worthy trade-off for that extra height but will you think that 6 years from now, or 10? -Remember this is forever it can't be undone.
Some of us think it's possible to recover completely -100%- you're just as good as you were and you've still got all the potential you once had- Well maybe it can be done afterall Shyshy says he had but for every success story there are three other like Sweden who feels he has destroyed his body and replaced it with regret -and for everone of him there are five other diaries who just end abruptly with no follow-up and it gets moved to the back of the list never mentioned again.
What happens to these people? I like to think the just move on with their life and forget the whole thing but who can say. If you fell into a depression because you now move like a 60-year old or people avoid you because you look like a freak or worst case scenario you've lost a leg -would you really continue to update your thread on a small internet forum?
These things worry me because even though I am tall by this sites standard I don't see a very happy future for me at this height and yet what if I do this surgery and I regret it? I don't have a bad life but it needs improvement in this one area -the question is: is it worth the risks and can I deal with the effects?
Guys, can we really live a life like someone who was naturally tall after LL or will we always be a bit damaged, always be slightly crippled and always a bit of an abomination?
Regarding pain:
I got my legs broken, the left leg had a bad osteotomy, right leg had cracks, 3cm of my fibulas were removed, I got trauma nails shoved down my bone canals, 5 distal screws were put under each knees, I got pierced with pins for the fixators and those fixators were heavy and tore on my legs.
So, of course it hurt.
In fact, I was experiencing the worst pain in my life when I woke up after surgery.
And I can take a lot.
It lasted for several days and only the highest allowed dosage of morphine could bring the pain level down to "bearable".
It can all be found in my diary.
But everyone is different and so are their diaries.
I woke up with complications, many others don't have complications.
I did external LON, others choose LATN and have two smaller surgeries instead, do internal nailing, or even choose externals only which is less invasive.
My body doesn't respond well to painkillers, others might only need small dosages in order to reduce the same amount of pain.
Pain is also subjective.
I wrote parts of my diary while I was still in the hospital, others prefer to make retrospective diaries and maybe just don't remember exactly how they really felt.
During the lengthening phase, I also had pain, especially in my right foot.
I even got a pin site infection which was also painful and which I didn't mention at first.
I just wasn't sure what it was and what I should do about it, so what should I write?
Then I simply forgot about it until someone advised/reminded me to put it in my diary.
Something like this could very well happen to others I guess, especially when they don't have the time to write that often or do it retrospectively.
So I don't think that most LL veterans are lying or purposefully playing down things when it comes to pain.
Regarding complications:
I had to stop lengthening due to complications and it killed me. But I kept on writing and a good number of people just bashed me for going to India and turned my diary which I worked so hard for into a war zone. I had a different opinion back then, because it was hard for my suffering me to except reality. But the point is, that once you run into complications and report them, the majority is not interested in you as a person anymore and your diary gets derailed. Then it's only about bad doctors, conspiracy theories, bad nations, bad LL techniques and an allegedly stupid you.
People read other peoples' diaries, see what happens when you report major complications and I bet that most of them simply don't want to be exposed to the same sh*t when they already have enough trouble. I can imagine this also to be the reason for why diaries just stop shortly after hints of complications were mentioned or start playing them down.
Disclaimer:
Sorry to the ones who actually supported me the hole time in my diary and over pm, I know your names :-)
I'm sorry I missed who you are, are you one of the guys to come here and tell everyone never to do LL like ThatDude?
Sure LL can be painful as hell, but living with the crippling thoughts that your height will forever make you a lesser human being and an unworthy man can be a very painful experience as well. Surely a different form of pain, a weak, yet everlasting and discouraging kind of pain that follows you no matter where you go. Unless you have experienced this, don't tell people that LL is always a bad decision.
I second that so much!
Even after pain and complications and despite what is still lying before me, I don't regret LL and it was and still is the best decision in my life.
Not all patients think the same. For many it was the worst decision in their lives. I've met a bunch of them in this forum.
Quote from: backrandom on August 26, 2017, 11:38:30 PMNot all patients think the same. For many it was the worst decision in their lives. I've met a bunch of them in this forum.
I bet that 90% of those people you are talking about either:
-Did a cheap surgery with an inexperienced/ bad doctor
-lengthened more than they should
-didn't follow the guidelines for safety and best results
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