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6,5 cm which can make me 169

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Quote from: Body Builder on February 06, 2018, 04:54:37 PMWith femurs the max you can do without risking permanent disabilities is 8cm which add a real height of less than 7cm due to q angle
With tibias you can hit 6-6.5cm which is the same add.

So at your height 6 or 7 cm make no real difference so do the best to avoid longterm consequenses and when you have money and you want it you can always do another one LL.
Don't ruin yourself to become 1.70 than 1.68-9 because both these heights are the same.
Not very short but still short. So do the best, don't hunt 1cm more that has no real difference.

Thanks mate for your advice. I will think again before operation
I didn't get what did you mean by q angle
And I think second LL will ruin my proportion,  because I already have long legs I think

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Quote from: Tiger9898 on February 06, 2018, 05:20:52 PMThanks mate for your advice. I will think again before operation
I didn't get what did you mean by q angle
And I think second LL will ruin my proportion,  because I already have long legs I think

Femurs are not completely vertical to the ground and that means that 8cm lengthening will give no more than 7cm real added height whereas with tibias your height will increase exactly the same as you lengthened (or 2-3mm less max).
So 8cm on femurs gives the same height as 7cm on tibias.

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Quote from: Body Builder on February 06, 2018, 11:26:15 PMFemurs are not completely vertical to the ground and that means that 8cm lengthening will give no more than 7cm real added height whereas with tibias your height will increase exactly the same as you lengthened (or 2-3mm less max).
So 8cm on femurs gives the same height as 7cm on tibias.

You are wrong!, You dont have 45 degree angle femurs, at most 5 to 10 degrees, that could make just 1 or 2mm difference on height.

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Quote from: Tiger9898 on February 06, 2018, 02:50:57 PM i will not quit my university, just will withdraw for 1 year 3 month.  There is really no way for me, especially for people who are below 165.  I am studying in the best University of my country but I can't concentrate on my lesson well because of my height.  I have been wearing elevator shoes which increase my height by 5 cm for 2 years. But you know what? Just one week ago, my friends said me that it seems like you are wearing heels. And can you imagine how it hurted my heart?  I can't hang out with my friends in the society because of feeling too short, every day when I wake up, I am checking the forum hoping and praying that I can find something new that can help me to feel good. I am really soo tired. And just 2 years left to my graduation day from University.  And  I can't imagine that I will be short till that time

I feel you man. Your mental state is much more important than higher education! So do what you think makes you happy

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Thanks mate for your understanding.  I was even one person out of 20 who accepted internship program in famous company in my country, however, I felt short there so I rejected their offer(( you can see that how my height affects even my career 

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Quote from: Masonm101 on February 07, 2018, 06:43:08 PMI feel you man. Your mental state is much more important than higher education! So do what you think makes you happy

You can manage mental states in ways that put less at risk, including your education and life, than LL.

Quote from: Tiger9898 on February 06, 2018, 02:50:57 PM i will not quit my university, just will withdraw for 1 year 3 month.  There is really no way for me, especially for people who are below 165.  I am studying in the best University of my country but I can't concentrate on my lesson well because of my height.  I have been wearing elevator shoes which increase my height by 5 cm for 2 years. But you know what? Just one week ago, my friends said me that it seems like you are wearing heels. And can you imagine how it hurted my heart?  I can't hang out with my friends in the society because of feeling too short, every day when I wake up, I am checking the forum hoping and praying that I can find something new that can help me to feel good. I am really soo tired. And just 2 years left to my graduation day from University.  And  I can't imagine that I will be short till that time

For the record, I'm planning my own LL for 9 years from now. So, 9 years of self-hate thoughts that will include height to try and keep under control (I'm also pretty bad at it). Not ideal, but realistically, it's what I can do to not risk screwing up my life just for LL --- trying to get it fast, when my life isn't ready, and cheap, with a bad doctor.

I do hope things turn out the best they can for you, whatever path you choose.

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I am 20 years old. If I wait til i finish my university, master degree, then I will be like 25 years old guy with mental illnesses and then what is the point of doing LL for me at that time?  Till that time i will accept joke about my height which is 162,5.  If I were 170 i wouldn't think about surgery, But for now,my shortness has taken my whole life,  i don't live as a normal person, everytime it is in my mind and  I am 100% sure that going to psychologist will not help me. Maybe it can help me to feel better for 1-2 hours, however, after walking in society or seeing tall people, my height syndrome will start again. So going to psychologist is not a solution.

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Quote from: Tiger9898 on February 07, 2018, 08:45:41 PMI am 20 years old. If I wait til i finish my university, master degree, then I will be like 25 years old guy with mental illnesses and then what is the point of doing LL for me at that time?  Till that time i will accept joke about my height which is 162,5.  If I were 170 i wouldn't think about surgery, But for now,my shortness has taken my whole life,  i don't live as a normal person, everytime it is in my mind and  I am 100% sure that going to psychologist will not help me. Maybe it can help me to feel better for 1-2 hours, however, after walking in society or seeing tall people, my height syndrome will start again. So going to psychologist is not a solution.

20 years old is super young. I tend to disagree with anyone this age doing LL because of two reasons: they generally learned about LL in the internet and decide to use all their life savings so far to do externals tibias in a developing country (those who have no plans of going through higher education), or they're putting their higher education at risk by doing LL, if currently engrossed at university/college. Also, you can go to a psychiatrist for drugs if you don't believe a psychologist can help (should probably try before, though). They can soften those feelings.

I also think you should listen to the advice of veteran LLers like Body Builder if you're really going to do this. If external femurs has a bigger complication rate (besides just being very difficult), then that is a problem, and you should consider external tibias instead. You need to be able to go back to your normal life afterwards. I don't really know because I have never deeply researched anything but fully external tibias (I find LATN/LON riskier) and internal femurs.

25 is also young, by the way; you're probably just too young yourself to see that. You still have your whole adult life ahead of you at 25. If you do it by then, you'll have your education completed, at the best university in the country no less, and it will probably be easier to deal with a longer recovery than expected, if that ends up happening. However, I don't know you or your situation personally. I'm just giving advice to the best of my ability.

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Quote from: myloginacct on February 07, 2018, 11:24:37 PM20 years old is super young. I tend to disagree with anyone this age doing LL because of two reasons: they generally learned about LL in the internet and decide to use all their life savings so far to do externals tibias in a developing country (those who have no plans of going through higher education), or they're putting their higher education at risk by doing LL, if currently engrossed at university/college. Also, you can go to a psychiatrist for drugs if you don't believe a psychologist can help (should probably try before, though). They can soften those feelings.

I also think you should listen to the advice of veteran LLers like Body Builder if you're really going to do this. If external femurs has a bigger complication rate (besides just being very difficult), then that is a problem, and you should consider external tibias instead. You need to be able to go back to your normal life afterwards. I don't really know because I have never deeply researched anything but fully external tibias (I find LATN/LON riskier) and internal femurs.

25 is also young, by the way; you're probably just too young yourself to see that. You still have your whole adult life ahead of you at 25. If you do it by then, you'll have your education completed, at the best university in the country no less, and it will probably be easier to deal with a longer recovery than expected, if that ends up happening. However, I don't know you or your situation personally. I'm just giving advice to the best of my ability.

My situation is totally different.  I mean people around me sometimes make joke about my height and  there is nothing i can do in order to avoid it. I can go to psychologist, and i may feel better.  But it will not change people's opinion about my shortness.  My legs hurt tooo much when I wear insole.  And once i tried not to use insoles,but one of my friend said that it seems like you become shorter. I understand what you are saying,  you are right I am young to do this surgery.  But i don't wanna live the best part of my life (20 th)  with  short height.  I will never be able to live these moments of my life. I don't like taking risks but there is no option left for me. So far I have tried many ways to increase my height but none of them worked unfortunately. You can't even imagine how many conflicts have I ever had with my parents because of myf shortness. I have always accused  of them because of my genetics but while deep down i know that it is not their blame, it is just the unjustice of life against me. My peers enjoy their tall or normal height  and it makes me feel jealous. Why i should be embarrassed of my height?  It is just unjustice!!
And in terms of external femur, I will talk to my surgeon before surgery,  I have talked to his patients who have done external femur and actually I am just confused. Anyway,  it is better to talk to his patients face to face before surgery  to make final decision