LON on femur

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Quote from: myloginacct on February 07, 2018, 11:24:37 PM20 years old is super young. I tend to disagree with anyone this age doing LL because of two reasons: they generally learned about LL in the internet and decide to use all their life savings so far to do externals tibias in a developing country (those who have no plans of going through higher education), or they're putting their higher education at risk by doing LL, if currently engrossed at university/college. Also, you can go to a psychiatrist for drugs if you don't believe a psychologist can help (should probably try before, though). They can soften those feelings.

I also think you should listen to the advice of veteran LLers like Body Builder if you're really going to do this. If external femurs has a bigger complication rate (besides just being very difficult), then that is a problem, and you should consider external tibias instead. You need to be able to go back to your normal life afterwards. I don't really know because I have never deeply researched anything but fully external tibias (I find LATN/LON riskier) and internal femurs.

25 is also young, by the way; you're probably just too young yourself to see that. You still have your whole adult life ahead of you at 25. If you do it by then, you'll have your education completed, at the best university in the country no less, and it will probably be easier to deal with a longer recovery than expected, if that ends up happening. However, I don't know you or your situation personally. I'm just giving advice to the best of my ability.

My situation is totally different.  I mean people around me sometimes make joke about my height and  there is nothing i can do in order to avoid it. I can go to psychologist, and i may feel better.  But it will not change people's opinion about my shortness.  My legs hurt tooo much when I wear insole.  And once i tried not to use insoles,but one of my friend said that it seems like you become shorter. I understand what you are saying,  you are right I am young to do this surgery.  But i don't wanna live the best part of my life (20 th)  with  short height.  I will never be able to live these moments of my life. I don't like taking risks but there is no option left for me. So far I have tried many ways to increase my height but none of them worked unfortunately. You can't even imagine how many conflicts have I ever had with my parents because of myf shortness. I have always accused  of them because of my genetics but while deep down i know that it is not their blame, it is just the unjustice of life against me. My peers enjoy their tall or normal height  and it makes me feel jealous. Why i should be embarrassed of my height?  It is just unjustice!!
And in terms of external femur, I will talk to my surgeon before surgery,  I have talked to his patients who have done external femur and actually I am just confused. Anyway,  it is better to talk to his patients face to face before surgery  to make final decision

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Quote from: Mariobro on February 07, 2018, 04:03:25 PMQuote from: Body Builder on February 06, 2018, 11:26:15 PMFemurs are not completely vertical to the ground and that means that 8cm lengthening will give no more than 7cm real added height whereas with tibias your height will increase exactly the same as you lengthened (or 2-3mm less max).
So 8cm on femurs gives the same height as 7cm on tibias.

You are wrong!, You dont have 45 degree angle femurs, at most 5 to 10 degrees, that could make just 1 or 2mm difference on height.

If you had 45 degrees angle the difference would have been the half you lengthened at least (8cm lemgthening for 4cm added height).
The difference between added height and lengthening in femurs is about 10% (7cm lengthening, 6.3 added height).

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Quote from: Mariobro on February 07, 2018, 04:03:25 PMQuote from: Body Builder on February 06, 2018, 11:26:15 PMFemurs are not completely vertical to the ground and that means that 8cm lengthening will give no more than 7cm real added height whereas with tibias your height will increase exactly the same as you lengthened (or 2-3mm less max).
So 8cm on femurs gives the same height as 7cm on tibias.

You are wrong!, You dont have 45 degree angle femurs, at most 5 to 10 degrees, that could make just 1 or 2mm difference on height.

If you had 45 degrees angle the difference would have been the half you lengthened at least (8cm lemgthening for 4cm added height).
The difference between added height and lengthening in femurs is about 10% (7cm lengthening, 6.3 added height).

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Quote from: Tiger9898 on February 08, 2018, 12:12:51 AMMy situation is totally different.  I mean people around me sometimes make joke about my height and  there is nothing i can do in order to avoid it. I can go to psychologist, and i may feel better.  But it will not change people's opinion about my shortness.  My legs hurt tooo much when I wear insole.  And once i tried not to use insoles,but one of my friend said that it seems like you become shorter. I understand what you are saying,  you are right I am young to do this surgery.  But i don't wanna live the best part of my life (20 th)  with  short height.  I will never be able to live these moments of my life. I don't like taking risks but there is no option left for me. So far I have tried many ways to increase my height but none of them worked unfortunately. You can't even imagine how many conflicts have I ever had with my parents because of myf shortness. I have always accused  of them because of my genetics but while deep down i know that it is not their blame, it is just the unjustice of life against me. My peers enjoy their tall or normal height  and it makes me feel jealous. Why i should be embarrassed of my height?  It is just unjustice!!
And in terms of external femur, I will talk to my surgeon before surgery,  I have talked to his patients who have done external femur and actually I am just confused. Anyway,  it is better to talk to his patients face to face before surgery  to make final decision

Tiger you sound like a smart guy. So yes talk to his patients face to face and then make your final decision! Don’t worry bud, people come on this forum because they have felt some way about their height, so don’t feel alone. Look at the bright side!

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Quote from: myloginacct on February 07, 2018, 08:23:14 PMYou can manage mental states in ways that put less at risk, including your education and life, than LL.

For the record, I'm planning my own LL for 9 years from now. So, 9 years of self-hate thoughts that will include height to try and keep under control (I'm also pretty bad at it). Not ideal, but realistically, it's what I can do to not risk screwing up my life just for LL --- trying to get it fast, when my life isn't ready, and cheap, with a bad doctor.

I do hope things turn out the best they can for you, whatever path you choose.

Myloginaccnt how tall are you?

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Quote from: Body Builder on February 08, 2018, 01:16:08 AMIf you had 45 degrees angle the difference would have been the half you lengthened at least (8cm lemgthening for 4cm added height).
The difference between added height and lengthening in femurs is about 10% (7cm lengthening, 6.3 added height).

You still wrong
I give you an example, if you do 6cm, at 10 degrees you would lose about 2mm, at 45 degrees you lose 1.5 cm(not half), at 70 degree its about 3.5 cm.  There is a formula but if you dont believe, draft a grafic on a paper and start leaning a 6cm rule on the scale.

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I think you should do ilizarov for shins. indeed external for femurs to be a real hell. since you suffer a lot from your height, makes external shins and when you will have more money makes the internal femur.

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Quote from: Amina51 on February 08, 2018, 03:58:16 PMI think you should do ilizarov for shins. indeed external for femurs to be a real hell. since you suffer a lot from your height, makes external shins and when you will have more money makes the internal femur.

As I said, firstly I will talk to the patients of my doctor who have done external femur and after learning their experience,  i will make my final decision)

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My doctor uses this external fixator( called Holyfix) with LON method (shown in the link below) Anyone knows how it differs from standard monorail device?
http://www.spinamer.com/portfolio-item/ortovia-eksternal-fixators-system/    (there is pdf file in the link to see more information)