Yup. Not cool to put out names like that. There are better ways around this.
Btw, I feel obliged to share a little bit of my experience with Dr Sringari, i think it's kinda unfair to view him in the same light as Dr Sarin.
Quote from: hand_sanitizer on January 22, 2014, 04:55:47 AMYup. Not cool to put out names like that. There are better ways around this.
Btw, I feel obliged to share a little bit of my experience with Dr Sringari, i think it's kinda unfair to view him in the same light as Dr Sarin.
Feel free to post it in Dr. Sringari's thread in the doctor directory.
Quote from: Tall on January 22, 2014, 04:02:57 AMThis is true. It's not our job to bring SysOp to justice. A court of law is much more professional, safe for all parties involved, fair, and unbiased. I was naive in thinking that I could post his name here and that nobody would cause him any harm outside of the legal system. I thought this would just help those investigating him for fraud/deception. I don't want anyone to physically stalk or hurt him. Dameon, if you don't mind, I've had a change of heart, and would like the post with Sysop's real name removed. I hope you will understand and agree.
I just wish he would have told us that he was making some money off of patients by recommending certain doctors instead of pretending to recommend doctors out of the goodness of his heart. That's just plain deceitful.
Hey bro,
It's all cool. Don't feel too bad about it.
It's alright to put his name up like that. So people would know who he is. At this moment, he may be praying on another potential victim, and we should all have the rights to know about this. Whenever, there is a rapist, a criminal or a fraudster in my town, a picture and the name of the perpetrator would always be disclosed in the city's newspaper and be shown on the TV's news... so all the city's citizen could be vigilant of this crime.
Syops/Apo is clearly a fraudster, a wolf disguising in angel clothes. And we, the short and desperate people, are his sheeps. He is making money off from us at the expense of our own health and safety by not fully disclosing the relationships and the money making deals he had with the doctors.
I agree, we are all adults and should make decision for ourselves. But the information we are provided ought to be true and correct... and the relationships fully disclosed; otherwise, this constitute a scam and is clearly illegal. Had I known that Apo/Sysop was having deals with Doctors, my decision to choose a particular doctor would be clearly different. What if I was told that I was given an apple but instead I was given a lemon. Was it my fault that I receive a lemon? My surgery turn out well, but had I been crippled or maimed because of Apoth/Sysop lies, should that be my fault? Well, no because I didn't ask for a lemon in the first place.
So don't feel too bad about this.
And good.... if you put up his name and some good Samaritan finds out and hurt this villain, then that would be great. At least he would then know how I have felt for the past 1 year.
Hi. Thanks for your post. Still I feel that I've made a big mistake in posting Sysop's name. It was not appropriate or fair of me to do, nor was it my right.
I myself was not maimed, nor was I ever hurt by Dr. Sarin or SysOp. I was about to go to Dr. Sarin's when all the negative stuff started surfacing, so I was very disappointed (I felt like I'd almost marched into a trap) and bitter (because I can't afford another doctor). What shocked me was that apparently a lot of negative things, such as severe complications had been covered up for a significant time period while Dr. Sarin was on the recommended list. I initially wanted to post Sysop's name so that he'd feel more liable for his actions.
Still, I am not the police, nor am I any kind of enforcer of justice. I had no right to post his name. A court of law would have kept Sysop's name discreet. Telling people his name does not make them safer. People do not need to know Sysop's name to avoid old forum , only that Sysop is a shady character.
Sweden made me aware that, by posting Sysop's name, I may have put him in danger of being stalked or physically harmed. This was not my intention at all. I would not want to physically harm SysOp. Darkness does not illuminate darkness. I was being naive, and failed to realize what powerful and negative impacts this post could have on another man.
Last, even though he is shady, SysOp deserves the same privacy any of us does on an online forum. I wouldn't want people finding out my identity, so it's not fair of me to so carelessly divulge his.
I have messaged Dameon and asked him to remove these posts regarding Sysop's real name. I hope he will agree, and I hope that no physical harm will befall SysOp given all the people who've already seen my post.
I hope this can be a lesson to the community to really consider the implications of the information you disclose. I've learned my lesson, and will be much more careful in the future.
We all know how Apotheosis sounds like from the 20/20 interview and his current height is near 6ft3.
Quote from: Sweden on January 22, 2014, 03:50:00 AMWhat's the charge? I don't really see the crime he did.
Deception and Consumer Unfair Practices, there are laws against fraud and misrepresentation of trust.
The FTC defined the elements of deception cases. First, “there must be a representation, omission or practice that is likely to mislead the consumer.” In the case of omissions, the Commission considers the implied representations understood by the consumer. A misleading omission occurs when information is not disclosed to correct reasonable consumer expectations. Second, the Commission examines the practice from the perspective of a reasonable consumer being targeted by the practice. Finally the representation or omission must be a material one—that is one that would have changed consumer behavior
Courts have identified three main factors that must be considered in consumer unfairness cases: (1) whether the practice injures consumers; (2) whether the practice violates established public policy; and (3) whether it is unethical or unscrupulous
Quote from: Sweden on January 22, 2014, 03:50:00 AMWhat's the charge?
I don't really see the crime he did. He wanted to make more money, sure. He did it with Dr Sarin but failed and now he is doing it with Sringari.
I don't think his intentions is to hurt people.
Dr Sarin did LL surgeries way before Apo was involved.
Maybe Sringari didn't, I don't know but nobody was a guinea pig who went to Dr Sarin in the first place. Not even Crazy+6.
Craig49 was the first old forum patient of Dr Sarin and he even came back for more surgeries.
I can't tell of Sringari though but Harry spoke of him as very professional. Although that doesn't mean dck I know.
If anyone from here would invade my privacy or interfere with my work I would shoot the bastard. Maybe Apo does that too.
This is just wrong. Let a courthouse try his case first before throwing his name out like that.
It's a type of fraud because he's making money from it, but I'm not going to speculate because I don't live in America.
Also, if a GP started referring patients in his community to unqualified "specialists", I can imagine he would be in deep shít for doing so. It would be outrageous if there weren't laws in place to prevent this sort of thing. Apotheosis certainly knows what he is doing is wrong because he wouldn't be trying to cover his ass if he didn't.
Please don't forget that he has massively manipulated and censored information about the complications of Dr. Betz patients. Although Dr. Betz has an extremely bad reputation, most old forum readers are deceived into believing he's the world best. I know for certain 1 case where he deleted a negative post by 1 patient in his diary. The patient never posted again afterwards.
LL is something you do only once in life and therefore you rely on information from others. If this information is manipulated you have no way to check whether it's true or not. Therefore Anderson is a real fraudster who deserves to be punished.
It's not our legal right to punish him.
Let the court decide that instead and first then we could have his name out here. He's not a criminal at this moment.
Both Betz and Dr Sarin had bad outcome but they also had very successful patients.
I would bet even Guichet has had bad outcome but we never get to hear about it.
Hi Sweden,
We have clear proof that Sysopeosis is deceiving people in his forum for his personal benefit. Therefore we have the right to judge him morally. I don't know Dr.Sarin therefore i can only talk about Dr. Betz. The worst thing about Dr. Betz is not that he produces a lot of injuries, but the fact that he is a dishonest man who is lying to his patients.I don't think Dr. Guichet is lying to his patients.
I agree, you can judge him morally. But putting his name out when he is not convicted for any crime is wrong.
A modern society doesn't work like that.
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