Would love all of your inputs and possible corrections.
Unless you are already booked for a procedure or simply cannot wait, I argue that waiting for Stryde is in your favour. Perhaps this is cognitive dissonance, but the balance of time is greatly compensated when using Stryde. For instance, weight-bearing with Precice takes 6 months, while weight-bearing with Stryde takes 2 weeks, at most. If we assume that Stryde is released 6 months from now, I'd rather have full-functioning movement and then get Stryde as oppose to being reduced to sitting for 6 months (especially during Covid). Even if we assume Stryde comes in 8 months, I believe that the wait is worth the efficiency.
Of course, this argument is void if we assume that Stryde will not be re-released.
What are you thoughts? And please, correct me if I've stated anything fundamentally incorrect.
I am currently in the midst of deciding what to do, and these are the conclusions I've developed.
Thanks
My argument for waiting for Stryde, please weigh in
I‘d go for the method that is available right now. Its not only about the weightbearing, its about the healing too. With stryde you wont have a faster healing than other nails. The difference is that you can bear weight very early and have a somewhat normal life during lengthening.
If you have a caretaker and don't mind not being able to walk for months, then Precice is probably fine. If you're doing this on your own, then you probably need a weight-bearing nail, otherwise I don't see how you could take care of yourself.
I agree with both VeteranLL and BelowTheMean in terms of having a life of normality etc during lengthening.
Just think about how psychologically devastating and damaging it would be to not be able to even walk around your own house or take a dump or walk to the fridge without needing a walker and potentially assistance from someone for 6 months. It's not just about being finished with the process by the time stryde is back, you have to consider just how tough those months will be by not being able to weight bear. Look at older precise diaries for examples of how depressed people got during lengthening. If you could use crutches comfortably with precise it would be a different story but it's not even recommended to use crutches as that simulates weight bearing.
This is exactly the reason I didn't choose precise. I went with the Betzbone because after speaking with several patients, it is the closest thing to the stryde nail that is available right now in terms of being able to walk around with crutches outside and without crutches for smaller distances. People telling people to simply do precise are vastly underestimating just how tough of a process it is. Long-term recovery will be similar between stryde and precise, but those 6 months or so while you're waiting for weight bearing clearance are going to be psychological torture.
I think you should wait for stryde or consider an alternative method. That being said if you can handle all that, precise will get you the height.
My thoughts exactly. The fundamental gain is the same. But, the psychology impact is significantly different. Even with a caretaker, not being self-sufficient in the most compulsory of tasks (hygiene, cooking, etc) would be very difficult. If technology like Stryde didn't exist, there would be no doubt about a decision to pursue Precice. But, it is simply (hopefully) a waiting game. I'd rather wait 8 months if it means I can sustain my psychology comfort throughout the process.
I'm in the same boat. Unfortunately, I have to do it this summer since it is going to be the last year for many years where I have more than a 2 close months time-frame. Next time will be after my Dr. degree which will take 9 more years or so lmao. It's really a stroke of fate that STRYDE got taken down NOW. I guess I'll have to move forward with precise.
Quote from: BreaktoGrow on March 08, 2021, 04:08:03 PM as oppose to being reduced to sitting for 6 months (especially during Covid).
covid is the best time for LL. you don't leave the house anyways right? That's another reason why I'd prefer doing it soon, you lose much less than you would when you would do it after the pandemic.
Quote from: RB on March 08, 2021, 04:37:12 PM
This is exactly the reason I didn't choose precise. I went with the Betzbone because after speaking with several patients, it is the closest thing to the stryde nail that is available right now in terms of being able to walk around with crutches outside and without crutches for smaller distances. People telling people to simply do precise are vastly underestimating just how tough of a process it is. Long-term recovery will be similar between stryde and precise, but those 6 months or so while you're waiting for weight bearing clearance are going to be psychological torture.
I think I have to agree with that though. 4-5 months (I think it takes 1-2 months after lengthening and 3 months for lengthening but it may depend) being stuck sounds terrible. I think it really forces you to be strong mentally. The height achievement and the overall recovery should be similar but having to use a wheelchair and walker... not even crutches... for that long... damn... I guess another alternative is going anorexia but I doubt you are fit for surgery then nor can your bones heal properly. Why did you choose Betzbone? and what is your experience with it?
Quote from: RealDamagedLostSoul on March 08, 2021, 04:57:07 PMI'm in the same boat. Unfortunately, I have to do it this summer since it is going to be the last year for many years where I have more than a 2 close months time-frame. Next time will be after my Dr. degree which will take 9 more years or so lmao. It's really a stroke of fate that STRYDE got taken down NOW. I guess I'll have to move forward with precise.
covid is the best time for LL. you don't leave the house anyways right? That's another reason why I'd prefer doing it soon, you lose much less than you would when you would do it after the pandemic.
I think I have to agree with that though. 4-5 months (I think it takes 1-2 months after lengthening and 3 months for lengthening but it may depend) being stuck sounds terrible. I think it really forces you to be strong mentally. The height achievement and the overall recovery should be similar but having to use a wheelchair and walker... not even crutches... for that long... damn... I guess another alternative is going anorexia but I doubt you are fit for surgery then nor can your bones heal properly. Why did you choose Betzbone? and what is your experience with it?
Yeah 4-5 months, maybe 6 depending on how much lengthening you do is the rule of thumb based on the precise diaries.
The reason I decided on Betzbone is that I spoke to several recent patients who had a good experience with it and were weight bearing from 2-3 weeks after surgery. I know this forum has mixed views on Betz and his nails did have problems in the past but it seems that from 2018 or so, majority of his patients have had a great experience and were able to weight bear in a similar way to stryde patients as he has an updated Betzbone now.
I'm actually scheduled for surgery on Wednesday so will keep you updated haha but this is my opinion based on speaking to recent patients.
Quote from: RB on March 08, 2021, 05:02:40 PMYeah 4-5 months, maybe 6 depending on how much lengthening you do is the rule of thumb based on the precise diaries.
The reason I decided on Betzbone is that I spoke to several recent patients who had a good experience with it and were weight bearing from 2-3 weeks after surgery. I know this forum has mixed views on Betz and his nails did have problems in the past but it seems that from 2018 or so, majority of his patients have had a great experience and were able to weight bear in a similar way to stryde patients as he has an updated Betzbone now.
I'm actually scheduled for surgery on Wednesday so will keep you updated haha but this is my opinion based on speaking to recent patients.
Interesting. How much height do you plan to do? Isn't with Betzbone like 12cm "possible"?
Quote from: RealDamagedLostSoul on March 08, 2021, 05:12:42 PMInteresting. How much height do you plan to do? Isn't with Betzbone like 12cm "possible"?
My goal is 7cm, with the most I will go to being 8cm. Yes it is technically possible to go to 12.5cm with the Betzbone but even Betz himself said not to exceed 9 or 10cm (which I still think is too much).
Quote from: RB on March 08, 2021, 05:17:01 PMMy goal is 7cm, with the most I will go to being 8cm. Yes it is technically possible to go to 12.5cm with the Betzbone but even Betz himself said not to exceed 9 or 10cm (which I still think is too much).
Yea I see. They don't do quadro lengthening do they?
I wanted to go for 4 inches in quadro lengthening with Paley but precice really turns me off. crutches would be okay but wheelchair for months sucks ngl.
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