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Posted on Nov 18, 2025, 10:38 pm
#1
I am new to LL, and seeking some advice from those who have had surgery...

I have a budget of around 40-50k USD, I am looking for a clinic, probably turkey.

Who is the best, who should I avoid? I am very risk averse for reference.

Also I can not decide between doing my femurs or tibias - as I say I am new to this and still learning.
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Posted on Nov 19, 2025, 12:10 am
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Avoid turkish butchers and pajeets. Turkey and India are literally the worst places to go for this, specially India. Unless you want to get yourself crippled. I think Giotikas is your safest bet due your budget
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Posted on Nov 20, 2025, 11:06 pm
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Quote from: sxxa on November 19, 2025, 12:10:49 AM
Avoid turkish butchers and pajeets. Turkey and India are literally the worst places to go for this, specially India. Unless you want to get yourself crippled. I think Giotikas is your safest bet due your budget

Thank you for your advice, I have been looking at Turkey a lot due to proximity and budget... Is there anyone there you could recommend, and equally who should I definitely avoid?
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Posted on Nov 21, 2025, 2:22 am
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back when I was considering this budget giotikas was my choice
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Posted on Nov 21, 2025, 2:23 am
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Quote from: zmayass on November 20, 2025, 11:06:43 PM
Thank you for your advice, I have been looking at Turkey a lot due to proximity and budget... Is there anyone there you could recommend, and equally who should I definitely avoid?
avoid LLT
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Posted on Nov 21, 2025, 1:06 pm
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@account03
Quote from: account03 on November 21, 2025, 02:22:46 AM
back when I was considering this budget giotikas was my choice
Just googled him and saw somebody passed away due to complications with him
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Posted on Nov 21, 2025, 9:10 pm
#7
Quote from: zmayass on November 21, 2025, 01:06:25 PM
@account03 Just googled him and saw somebody passed away due to complications with him

any evidence or source??
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Posted on Nov 21, 2025, 9:35 pm
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Quote from: sxxa on November 19, 2025, 12:10:49 AM
Avoid turkish butchers and pajeets. Turkey and India are literally the worst places to go for this, specially India. Unless you want to get yourself crippled. I think Giotikas is your safest bet due your budget

coma-boy is back!! - more racism!!

thought you were 172 in the morning??  ;D
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Posted on Nov 22, 2025, 1:10 am
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Quote from: zmayass on November 21, 2025, 01:06:25 PM
@account03 Just googled him and saw somebody passed away due to complications with him

Yeah that's true but I remember the patient did something that fckd his blood or something, wasn't Dr.'s fault
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Posted on Nov 22, 2025, 5:22 pm
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Quote from: zmayass on November 18, 2025, 10:38:58 PM
I am new to LL, and seeking some advice from those who have had surgery...

I have a budget of around 40-50k USD, I am looking for a clinic, probably turkey.

Who is the best, who should I avoid? I am very risk averse for reference.

Also I can not decide between doing my femurs or tibias - as I say I am new to this and still learning.

Man, first you must say your height.
Second, you must know which bones you want to lengthen and what technology you want to use !
I think you have to keep reading about LL for few months more, just to understand the main principles...
Most guys here are between 1.55-1.65 meter tall, so they need quadrilateral LL, because only bilateral is not enough... But that will double the expenses.

For femurs you can do only internal nailing (Precice, G-nails, Fitbone), which are expensive.
For tibias you can do LON or external frame. If you want the best and serious one (Precice) it cost much more. But if you dont care about risks and suffer... go to LON or frame and your money are enough for tibias.

So, first you must find which bones you do, but only after checking your femur/tibia ratio, because some people has very long femurs and others very long tibias. So, you cannot do whatever you want, you have to do whatever is best for your ratio.
And dont forget to measure your wingspan !

In Turkey the best is Kucukkaya, but he is very expensive. Mustafa Uysal is good in LON. The rest of "doctors" in Turkey, just avoid them !
Giotikas is better in femur G-nails, but i dont trust him for any kind of tibial technique.
And if you choose Fitbone, stay away from Monegal !
Forget about India and Vietnam, because you can become crippled for life, or even die !

You're welcome !


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Posted on Nov 22, 2025, 6:07 pm
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Is there anyone else here at a similar stage to me i.e. initial research stages and a similar budget - would be good to compare notes and discuss options!
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Posted on Nov 26, 2025, 4:12 pm
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well it doesn't take much research - you break your legs and they get prised apart - then they grow back to fill the gap 🤷‍♂️
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Posted on Nov 26, 2025, 6:43 pm
#13
First, decide which method you want to have done. The LON method is more painful, less comfortable, and slightly more prone to infection compared to the others. However, with the LON method you can lengthen more than 8 cm on the femur. As internal methods, I know Precice 2 and Fitbone. With the Precice and Fitbone methods, depending on your situation, you can lengthen 8 cm on the femur and 6 cm on the tibia.

The Precice 2 method is more expensive than the other methods. You can lengthen an average of 1 mm or 0.75 mm per day (this is determined based on your doctor’s check-ups). The LON method allows 1.25 to 1.50 mm per day. With both methods, you must receive physiotherapy to reach your goal.
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Posted on Nov 27, 2025, 4:56 pm
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Quote from: MechaRooted07 on November 26, 2025, 06:43:24 PM
The LON method allows 1.25 to 1.50 mm per day.
Is that really true? I am not familiar with LON but why would you increase more than 1 mm per day? I am pretty sure this will f*ck up your soft tissue (i.e., muscles, nerves etc.).
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Posted on Nov 27, 2025, 5:08 pm
#15
Quote from: CallusCloud on November 27, 2025, 04:56:13 PM
Is that really true? I am not familiar with LON but why would you increase more than 1 mm per day? I am pretty sure this will f*ck up your soft tissue (i.e., muscles, nerves etc.).

Not continuously. I’ve seen some patients progress at this rate from time to time, but generally the safe rate is to lengthen 1 mm per day.
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Posted on Dec 5, 2025, 10:24 am
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I am planning LON Tibias. I am wondering if it will be too painful to endure or not aswell. Anybody who had LON Tibia?
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