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Posted on May 9, 2016, 9:42 pm
#101

Update:
It´s been 3 years since my op. I am doing fine.
Athletic recovery is around 99%, but I only lengthened very little (something around 5,7 to 5,9cm, i don´t know exactly) so i don´t know if athletic recovery is possible -in terms of 99%- if you lengthen 8cm.
It all depends on many different factors. Age, dedication, genes, body type, etc etc etc.

One guy -here or in the old forum- made some kind of LL compendium , trying to establish some kind of statistics about good and bad outcome of LL patients. He put me in the "bad outcome" department. This is ridiculous. My outcome is good, if you look at it from a medical standpoint. I was lucky. My complications were minor, compared to what happened to others and compared to what can happen in general.
My pre-LL-problems were mostly in my head, and LL cannot solve this (in most cases). So, maybe this guy who did the statistics chose to put too much emphasis on negative posts of mine that don´t have anything to do with the medical/physical outcome.

I generally advise against LL.
If you think this is your very last option and you are about to kill yourself, ok, do it.
But don´t expect to be happy after LL. This is rarely likely if you have been unhappy pre-LL (exceptions always exist, of course).
If you are an unhappy person, you are an unhappy person, a few centimeters more won´t fix that.
I am glad that I did the op, but I am still an unhappy person. This is my nature and the circumstances of my life.
But maybe my case is different. I did LL at 45 and I was pretty ok until then. Well: I must correct, I was pretty ok until 41 or 42. It was then when I realized that you cannot easily start all over again at that age, e.g. realizing you should have been an artist and ended up as a lawyer. Or the other way round.
So maybe, if you are young and do LL and you are unhappy, maybe LL can actually help you to become a happy person. I don´t know. Each person is unique , each case is different, each one has his/her own complications.
But, LL should be the very last remedy. Before, try everything else. You have got to realize that -doing LL- you finally and unchangeably decide to not accept the body that was given to you. This can be a huge burden for the rest of your life.
It all comes down to a very simple logic:
1. If you are happy, don´t do LL. You risk many things and you lose important things. What for? You are already happy, so stay happy and make the best out of your life.
2. If you are unhappy, chances are that you will stay unhappy after LL, just being a few centimeters taller. But maybe you are an exception and LL will actually affect your happiness. Nobody knows...

To all those who think they will have better chances with women: Your personality weighs way more than just a few centimeters. So, if you do it, do it for yourself and not for women.
Peace
OBG

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Posted on May 9, 2016, 11:11 pm
#102

Thanks for the update OBG.

I share many of your sentiments regarding life post LL. I did 7cm on my femurs to become 170cm+ and the only difference between who I was as a person 6 months ago vs now is that I no longer think about height.

Many of the guys here are delusional about the effects of LL, that they'll get the women of their dreams, solve all their social issues, make a higher salary, etc. Sorry to say that nothing really changes except your mental condition. LL is like having a lot of money, it will make you less sad but will not make you happy.

I don't regret doing LL and giving up half a year of my life because I cured my height neurosis. However, that's about the only thing that has changed.

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Posted on May 10, 2016, 7:19 am
#103

You say now recovery is 99%.

1 year ago you said:

"Walking is 100% normal, running/speed might be 80% but I can´t say for sure. My level in tennis might be 70% of before.
Skiing and snowboarding is back to 100%, LL does not affect these sports.
Jumping is no problem, either. Even jumping down from a wall.
Cheers
OBG"

So I assume that has improved in the meantime?


Did you have other problems like temporary hair loss because of medication and post-surgery trauma?

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Posted on May 10, 2016, 7:50 am
#104

Quote from: PatientZero on May 09, 2016, 11:11:05 PMI don't regret doing LL and giving up half a year of my life because I cured my height neurosis. However, that's about the only thing that has changed.

Well, that's not too bad, I think. I don't know what people here expect from this operation, but I certainly know, that I won't be happier afterwards.

I simply don't want to think about being too small compared to the average guy in this country where I live anymore.

That's all.

(btw, when I lived in Japan for a year, I never even thought about being to small. And that felt good to me. So I guess, doing LL will "cure that" problem for me.)

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Posted on May 10, 2016, 8:51 pm
#105

Quote from: axelf on May 10, 2016, 07:19:29 AMYou say now recovery is 99%.

1 year ago you said:

"Walking is 100% normal, running/speed might be 80% but I can´t say for sure. My level in tennis might be 70% of before.
Skiing and snowboarding is back to 100%, LL does not affect these sports.
Jumping is no problem, either. Even jumping down from a wall.
Cheers
OBG"

So I assume that has improved in the meantime?


Did you have other problems like temporary hair loss because of medication and post-surgery trauma?

1. Yes, i has improved.
2. No.

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Posted on Aug 12, 2016, 4:05 am
#106

Oldie, we should play tennis sometime. Hope you're well friend! OldieButGoldie Internal Femurs - Dr. Betz - 2013

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Posted on Aug 12, 2016, 10:33 am
#107

Quote from: axelf on May 10, 2016, 07:19:29 AMYou say now recovery is 99%.

1 year ago you said:

"Walking is 100% normal, running/speed might be 80% but I can´t say for sure. My level in tennis might be 70% of before.
Skiing and snowboarding is back to 100%, LL does not affect these sports.
Jumping is no problem, either. Even jumping down from a wall.
Cheers
OBG"

So I assume that has improved in the meantime?


Did you have other problems like temporary hair loss because of medication and post-surgery trauma?

Axelf, I have hair loss during LL, which I don't know yet if it's temporary (hopefully) or permanent, probably mostly due to lack of sleep and anxiety.

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Posted on Aug 12, 2016, 10:46 am
#108

Hello OBG, I think your recovery is great and I agree with you that nobody should do LL, unless as a very last resort. I'm in my early 40s and just finished LL with Dr.G with a gain of 5.1cm. I'm learning to restore my ability to walk now and I'm wondering how can you walk without crutches after stop clicking within just five days? What did you do everyday after stop clicking? I've stopped clicking for almost a week, but I can only walk very slowly with crutches. I do exercises everyday but knees are still stiff and I have pain here and there on my legs and hips.

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Posted on Aug 12, 2016, 2:45 pm
#109

Quote from: dream_catcher on August 12, 2016, 10:33:25 AMAxelf, I have hair loss during LL, which I don't know yet if it's temporary (hopefully) or permanent, probably mostly due to lack of sleep and anxiety.

how much loss are we talking about? and did it happen right after surgery or did it take some time?

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Posted on Aug 14, 2016, 7:41 pm
#110

Quote from: axelf on August 12, 2016, 02:45:05 PMhow much loss are we talking about? and did it happen right after surgery or did it take some time?
I think I lost about 5% of my hair. It's quite noticable in the mirror. It took a while after the surgery and I don't think it's the direct effect of the surgery. Rather it's more with the stress and ther deprivation of sleeping during LL. My level of stress has reduced greatly and my sleeping has been gradually getting better after LL. And it seems my hair loss slows down.

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