Penguinn- Precice II internal femurs with Dr. Parihar

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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on June 27, 2018, 08:19:58 PMWhat about 6cm femur and 5cm tibia? This would give me the perfect ratio of 0.8. Or 5cm femur and 5cm tibia?

Thing is I am not sure if I am gonna do the 2nd surgery for femur, so I think it's best to secure the maximum safe increased height on tibia which is 5cm.

I'm honestly not sure about the exact amount, I was just getting a point across

I think 5cm on either segment should be a great, safe goal, relatively speaking.

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Quote from: Penguinn on June 27, 2018, 08:57:40 PMI'm honestly not sure about the exact amount, I was just getting a point across

I think 5cm on either segment should be a great, safe goal, relatively speaking.

But do you think that athleticism will get much worse if you lengthen 2 segments (even by a reasonable amount as you suggest) compared to 1 segment only?

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Penguin did you get it band release?

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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on June 27, 2018, 09:07:33 PMBut do you think that athleticism will get much worse if you lengthen 2 segments (even by a reasonable amount as you suggest) compared to 1 segment only?

I only have experience lengthening one segment so my guess is as good as yours.

Is lengthening 7.5 in one segment worse than 6+4 in both? I don't know, but if I had lengthened only 6, I would probably be 100% right now, not even realise I'd done LL... and definitely 100% after nail removal (which I'm hoping I will be anyway). If I had to put my money on something, I would wager 6+4 is better. I wouldn't recommend doing 3" anyway unless you're really f*cking short.

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Quote from: Penguinn on June 28, 2018, 06:10:09 AMI only have experience lengthening one segment so my guess is as good as yours.

Is lengthening 7.5 in one segment worse than 6+4 in both? I don't know, but if I had lengthened only 6, I would probably be 100% right now, not even realise I'd done LL... and definitely 100% after nail removal (which I'm hoping I will be anyway). If I had to put my money on something, I would wager 6+4 is better. I wouldn't recommend doing 3" anyway unless you're really f*cking short.

What's your guess between 5 in tibia and 6+4 in both?

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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on June 28, 2018, 05:06:58 PMWhat's your guess between 5 in tibia and 6+4 in both?

For athleticism retainment? Definitely 5cms in tibia over 6cm+4cm.

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Dr Birkholtz said in his thread a while back that he's of the opinion doing both segments makes your athleticism worse than doing just one segment, since it has more to do with the stretching of the soft tissues and not the tibia/femur ratio.

I wouldnt imagine competitive sport being within the realm of possibility after any CLL, at least if you wanna be really good at it.

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Quote from: KiloKAHN on June 28, 2018, 07:46:04 PMDr Birkholtz said in his thread a while back that he's of the opinion doing both segments makes your athleticism worse than doing just one segment, since it has more to do with the stretching of the soft tissues and not the tibia/femur ratio.

True, but what I imagine is something like this: every centimetre after the safe limit is as bad as 2cms within the safe limit, recovery wise
So assuming the tibia safe limit is 5cms, 7cms in tibias is as bad as 5cms tibias + 4 cms femurs

I pulled these numbers out my @ss but you see what I mean. Doing 8cms in femurs might not be better than doing 6 in femurs and 4 in tibias.

Of course doing 7cms femurs is better recovery wise than doing 7cms femurs + 4 cms tibias.

QuoteI wouldnt imagine competitive sport being within the realm of possibility after any CLL, at least if you wanna be really good at it.

Agreed. Anyone that wants to compete on a serious level after LL needs to prioritize and pick one.

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Quote from: KiloKAHN on June 28, 2018, 07:46:04 PMDr Birkholtz said in his thread a while back that he's of the opinion doing both segments makes your athleticism worse than doing just one segment, since it has more to do with the stretching of the soft tissues and not the tibia/femur ratio.

I wouldnt imagine competitive sport being within the realm of possibility after any CLL, at least if you wanna be really good at it.

But the question is how much worse? Or is it negligible?

Competitive sport not being a possibility is quite anecdotal and it comes from people like Body Builder, Sweden who overlengthened. Even you overlengthened a little with 6cm.

But even if it's true, fights usually end in a few seconds on the street.

Quote from: Penguinn on June 28, 2018, 08:14:36 PMAgreed. Anyone that wants to compete on a serious level after LL needs to prioritize and pick one.

But it's not really an option to me. They are both obligatory. The idea is I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of my legs' athletic function if it means taking me from 'short' to 'normal'.

By the way, I came across an older post that's quite interesting: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=481.msg8548#msg8548

*Patients at 6 months post op, 1 year post op, and 2 years post op were tested with these tests, and the patients on average by the 2 year mark were within 3% of their pre-operative strength and ability.     

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3% is a lot.
Anyway, no point in discussing this. You'll find out when you do LL for yourself. Just remember, if competing professionally is your life and more important than height- don't do LL