People over 5 9"

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Quote from: IamAndrew on May 28, 2014, 05:49:21 PMHonestly the girls who are not worth taking home to mum or not worth marrying are automatically weeded out because of a man's short stature. If you were a tall guy all the sloots and loser girls would be interested in you and you'd have to wonder about their sincerity or how superficial they are. Us short guys don't have that problem. Only decent girls who care about feelings and compatibility above all else are interested in giving a chance to slightly below average height guys (unless you got a huge dck or good looking face, then you'd have to wonder).

Btw mystery and having a distinguished look is SO huge to women. Getting premature gray/silver hair like a skunk tail on my head was like adding +10 cool and memorable points. I would take being a distinguished 5'7-8" guy over a plain 6'0" Joe any day.

Totally agree. And that's why I'm only doing one surgery to get to 5'8-5'8.5"...I've already got the facial aesthetics. I just feel that anything below 5'7" ish is really bad, and when you should get LL. I don't need nor do I want to be 6ft to capture that horrible group of women. Many of those women will end up single well into their 30s wondering why on Earth they can't find a "good man" anyway. Don't come to me now! lol

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hallijah! i agree with your mix, it makes sense, but this is the kind of discussion were rgkey could give good insights.. not me..loool

i just wanted to make the point that we all know about success stories (not only with women, but with life in general..) of people that are short but managed to compensate that with other qualities, i personally know several.. even guys shorter than me.. that does not invalidate our quest for height..

i think every person is unique and deals with height neurosis in different ways.. i will do limb lengthening surgery, but i tried in my twenties to succeed without it, now at 32 yrs i figured out that this is really what i have to do.. i'm don't feel like regretting not have it done before,  it could have worked out differently, it just didn't..

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Quote from: IamAndrew on May 28, 2014, 05:49:21 PMHonestly the girls who are not worth taking home to mum or not worth marrying are automatically weeded out because of a man's short stature. If you were a tall guy all the sloots and loser girls would be interested in you and you'd have to wonder about their sincerity or how superficial they are. Us short guys don't have that problem. Only decent girls who care about feelings and compatibility above all else are interested in giving a chance to slightly below average height guys (unless you got a huge dck or good looking face, then you'd have to wonder).

Btw mystery and having a distinguished look is SO huge to women. Getting premature gray/silver hair like a skunk tail on my head was like adding +10 cool and memorable points. I would take being a distinguished 5'7-8" guy over a plain 6'0" Joe any day.

this true is so many ways I have cpl stores in 2 dif malls last month I was watching short guys and what kind of women they have or hang out with , a lot of short dudes with good looking women married and happy also a lot of tall guys with trashy women so it's not that bad as it appear to us and to the ppl here , and this is really why I don't come here much or on the old forum as I used too .

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Other thing I notice a lot of the women who is 5'6 to 5'10 they are with guys shorter than them ,and a lot of the 4'10 women to 5'3 with very tall guys I didn't see a lot of these short women with short dudes .

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Quote from: Shortie on May 29, 2014, 04:46:07 PMOther thing I notice a lot of the women who is 5'6 to 5'10 they are with guys shorter than them ,and a lot of the 4'10 women to 5'3 with very tall guys I didn't see a lot of these short women with short dudes .

I kinda think that is because very short women are themselves insecure about their own height, so they only date men 7ft and above in order to compensate (and also have a chance at normal sized children, of course). I think taller women (starting at around 5'6"-5'7") don't have height/high heel obsessions, so they're (slightly) more forgiving when it comes to height. Unless they're the type that are insecure of feeling "big," and so too only date super tall guys.

At 5'6" a lot of the women I've dated/messed with have been like 5'7"-5'8". They've all asked me out first, I just don't have the balls to ask out a woman that's taller than me, since I usually assume they wouldn't be open to dating a shorter guy. Though my only significant gf that I dated for 5 years was around 5'3".

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Quote from: YellowSpike391 on May 29, 2014, 04:56:39 PMI kinda think that is because very short women are themselves insecure about their own height, so they only date men 7ft and above in order to compensate (and also have a chance at normal sized children, of course). I think taller women (starting at around 5'6"-5'7") don't have height/high heel obsessions, so they're (slightly) more forgiving when it comes to height. Unless they're the type that are insecure of feeling "big," and so too only date super tall guys.

At 5'6" a lot of the women I've dated/messed with have been like 5'7"-5'8". They've all asked me out first, I just don't have the balls to ask out a woman that's taller than me, since I usually assume they wouldn't be open to dating a shorter guy. Though my only significant gf that I dated for 5 years was around 5'3".

that could be why , i also dated / messed with some girls 5'6 to 5'8 but I am attracted more to smaller girls

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I understand why shorter girls date taller men, when you see a short couple the first thing u notice is how short they are , it may not be as important to a man who wants to be happy , but it may be for a girl who has always dealt with being judged, which in order to survive makes them superficial most of the time, and I'm also sure if u put one of the most superficial girls on an island with you only u two, she'll be more interested about having a good time and she'll start liking you.. What we are being judged for, girls have been judged for most of their life, and its our fault both men and women, so instead of entering this cycle I better improve my game and discover the joy of life

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Quote from: Hallijah on May 29, 2014, 07:55:33 PMI understand why shorter girls date taller men, when you see a short couple the first thing u notice is how short they are , it may not be as important to a man who wants to be happy , but it may be for a girl who has always dealt with being judged, which in order to survive makes them superficial most of the time, and I'm also sure if u put one of the most superficial girls on an island with you only u two, she'll be more interested about having a good time and she'll start liking you.. What we are being judged for, girls have been judged for most of their life, and its our fault both men and women, so instead of entering this cycle I better improve my game and discover the joy of life

I dont really understand that logic, a short man would easily have been judged a lot more than a short girl would, so i dont think that is the reason why short girls are more height obsessed when it comes to the partner. I thin it might have to do with social customs, girls are generally attention whores because of television and hollywood influence, and short girls to get noticed can compensate by getting a very tall guy. It might also have something to do with short girls looking for taller men because they want their children to get a better chance to become average height or more.

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Quote from: Wannabegiant on May 29, 2014, 08:48:40 PMI dont really understand that logic, a short man would easily have been judged a lot more than a short girl would, so i dont think that is the reason why short girls are more height obsessed when it comes to the partner. I thin it might have to do with social customs, girls are generally attention whores because of television and hollywood influence, and short girls to get noticed can compensate by getting a very tall guy. It might also have something to do with short girls looking for taller men because they want their children to get a better chance to become average height or more.

Maybe he meant that women are judged a lot by their looks? On average, we as men care more about looks than women do. I don't care how rich or confident a woman is - if I'm not attracted to her, the conversation doesn't start. But if there's one aspect of physical looks that is greatest dealbreaker in the dating world - it's a man's height. We know this.

In my opinion, the only real female equivalent to a short man would be (perhaps) an ugly woman. Fat girls can get off their ass and stop being fat, but if a woman is just ugly, there's not much she can do save for tons of plastic surgery (just the way LL is our only way to get taller). I've also seen that even older women who are attractive still do fine with dating, and can still be tough about a guy's height.

I dated a cougar last year for a while. She was 5'1" and flat out told me that she married her ex husband (whom she said she never loved) soley becuase he was 6'3" and she wanted tall kids (and both kids ended up short - jokes on her). She said that if I were her age, she would seriously date me, though. She kept ragging on my height, meanwhile at 5'6" I practically towered over her. This experience led me to believe that short woman can be really insecure with their own height and use a tall man to compensate.

Women are strange creatures indeed. Can't live with em, can't live without em

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And how about living in Asia?  No need to get LL there and chicks dig white dudes!