Quote from: DREAM on June 03, 2014, 03:26:32 PMclingy. Assertive. Bossy, gold diggers.
You've just described almost all the women in North America, so I'm not worried about that! 
Quote from: IamAndrew on May 30, 2014, 03:46:31 AMOh no dood, didn't mean you personally. Just this topic turned into one about how women only care about height or something.
Male arousal and stimulation is SO visual and men oft think women must be the same because they can't think of it any other way. Once a man gets over that hurdle he'll see that the way he looks plays a much smaller role than he thinks. Most women don't even find tall, nude male models arousing at all (if they don't know them) and don't even like penises - that they don't have feelings attached to. The main technique with basting women is appealing to their feelings and making them feel good around you (that is what the art of pulling is all about or, if you got good character, then being sincere and competent). Make that happen and they'll even get super dirty just to please you. Problem is to make the women feel good you have to feel good about yourself - that is the only time height actually gets in your way - when you sabotage yourself over it.
And yea Asia is awesome. Want to move to HK someday for the opportunities.
from personal experience, if I'm not interested in that girl I will miserably fail, I mean not fail but I come out as a liar , but if I'm interested Idk something in my mind makes me work until I get her interest back and then I succeed, but then again i get tired very quickly, not interested anymore in her,I'll go away from her, just to regret it the day after, story of my life
In my humble opinion: as someone who has undergone LL. Height is relative. No males or very few desire to be the smallest person of any specific group. Heightism exists. Even during my LL experience I was surrounded by a dozen LL patients ranging from a starting height of 5'2" to 5'9" (we actually had a 6'0" gentleman visit and contemplate gaining an additional 2" but he declined in the end)
That being said, even amongst LL patients who were all undergoing the same procedure for the same reasons which was to be taller, I witnessed discrimination or dismissal of worth exhibited toward the smaller of the group ( 5'4" and below) and a faint hint of a superiority complex amongst the taller patients (5'6" and above). It appears to me that heightism is an ingrained social trait deep rooted in biology that manifests in awful ways at times.
I believe it it no ones right to judge or set boundaries for another as to what is an appropriate height to be. It is my understanding that in India the average male stands near 5'5". Therefore a 5'7" would be amongst the taller of any given group. Now in Scandinavia where the average height approaches 6'0" for men a 5'7" would most definitely be amongst the most diminutive of any group.
Who are we to judge? Have we ever spent a day in the life of another person who only wishes to alter themselves?
Yeah for sure its relative to the environment, since it is a cosmetic surgery we pay for anybody should be allowed to do it without getting crap for it.
I was 5'9 before the surgery, and i live in Sweden. I never had the need to be the tallest in a group in most situations. But since the average for males in Sweden is ca 180 cm, while i wasnt towered by majority of the people, i was almost always one of the shortest men in a group even if it was only by a small height difference. It sucks because you become a bit overshadowed when you stand out in a negative way like that. I would probably have gone for more height if it was possible to recover fully, but over 5 cm you will lose some athleticism/agility that will be noticable compared to doing less which will probably not be noticeable. So i had to prioritize recovery and proportions over gaining additional height.
If i lived in Asia i would probably have been satisfied at 5'9. But i could never consider moving now, i want to be a winner and a big shot/fish in the shark tank so to speak.
I live in Sweden too and I have always been a winner in my life regarding everything - except height!
I guess I compensated my short stature with my athletic career and working harder than anyone else.
I've sensed that I've been held back a lot in my field of work bc of my height!
Sadly, 180cm is not enough in Sweden so I'm aiming for another 5cm.
I'm not the guy who is satisfied with a good life - I want a GREAT life!! 
Sweden
You say height held you back in your career.
You have done LL and are now average height. I understand you lost your job after increasing your height. correct me if I am wrong.
Looks like LL didn't really improve your career. If anything it made things worse. Now you are going for more when you didn't gain anything career-wise from your first surgery.
AT 180cm height is no longer the problem in ur life. Time to start looking at other things to improve urself/life.
What's the point of towering other males with ballerina, x-leg, limping around and bringing home a lower pay-cheque than the one you had when u were 5'8.
The comments you make on LL forums lately also show that you are an angrier and frustrated man after LL.
Just a get a job and move on with ur life before your wife leaves you for another man. if that man turns out to be taller than u please don't blame it on height.
Naaa, I'm just gonna do whatever I want to do - just like I always have. It has worked out very well for me the past 17 years. 
Quote from: Adriano on August 03, 2014, 01:13:16 AMSweden
You say height held you back in your career.
You have done LL and are now average height. I understand you lost your job after increasing your height. correct me if I am wrong.
Looks like LL didn't really improve your career. If anything it made things worse. Now you are going for more when you didn't gain anything career-wise from your first surgery.
AT 180cm height is no longer the problem in ur life. Time to start looking at other things to improve urself/life.
What's the point of towering other males with ballerina, x-leg, limping around and bringing home a lower pay-cheque than the one you had when u were 5'8.
The comments you make on LL forums lately also show that you are an angrier and frustrated man after LL.
Just a get a job and move on with ur life before your wife leaves you for another man. if that man turns out to be taller than u please don't blame it on height.
Some people tend to blame everything on height where there is obvious and SEVERE flaws in other departments.
The most worrying part is you can't stop them can you? It is their life and their body.
I have get to know a lot of people in life and a golden rule I learned is to accept that we are all different and every single person has atleast one "socially weird" attribute. But after several years reading old forum and LL Forum (on and off for months inbetween) I cannot help but to admit that there are a unevenly high amount of wackos in this community that you would rarely see in the daily life.
Of course, bc you need to be totally insane to do this surgery
Quote from: Adriano on August 03, 2014, 01:13:16 AMSweden
You say height held you back in your career.
You have done LL and are now average height. I understand you lost your job after increasing your height. correct me if I am wrong.
Looks like LL didn't really improve your career. If anything it made things worse. Now you are going for more when you didn't gain anything career-wise from your first surgery.
AT 180cm height is no longer the problem in ur life. Time to start looking at other things to improve urself/life.
What's the point of towering other males with ballerina, x-leg, limping around and bringing home a lower pay-cheque than the one you had when u were 5'8.
The comments you make on LL forums lately also show that you are an angrier and frustrated man after LL.
Just a get a job and move on with ur life before your wife leaves you for another man. if that man turns out to be taller than u please don't blame it on height.
You lost your job after LL?! 
How did that happen?
And I agree that height is relative. We don't tell people to not aim for a promotion, or not to buy a better house or car, just because people in third world countries are starving. Then no one would achieve anything. Everything is relative.
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