Quote from: desensitize on November 25, 2021, 07:12:41 AMDude chill out. Bad genetics are just guaranteing higher possibiltiie of bad characters and it is very absurd to ignore the haphazard.
Exactly, but why not prevent the high-risk parents from taking those risks that society and civilization have to suffer and be held back for when they don't work out?
Quote from: desensitize on November 25, 2021, 10:46:39 AMLife itself is meaningless and the meanings can vary from this person to another. Reproducing is not the meaning of everyone's life and it's kinda like a philosophic conundrum.
Indeed. Life has no "meaning". Anthropologist/Mythologist/Philosopher Joseph Campbell's answer to "what is the meaning of life?" was that you're asking the wrong question. Like trying to figure out whether "This sentence is false." is true or not. 
Quote from: zaozari on November 25, 2021, 03:06:22 PMthis is ANOTHER reason to avoid that absurd, racist idea of preventing anybody from having sons.
Another guy playing the race card on what could be a completely non-racial issue. Eugenics doesn't have to mean healthy, intelligent black people and Jewish people need to be wiped out. Everything Hitler liked isn't necessarily always bad, and everything he hated isn't necessarily always good.
Quote from: yash on November 25, 2021, 03:21:34 AMi think people with bad genes should not have kids and let an other human being suffer the same kind of pain they go through,any thoughts?
Evaluating you by your height 12 cm below US average, would you say you have bad genes and shouldn't have been born?
Quote from: zaozari on November 25, 2021, 03:12:25 PMEvaluating you by your height 12 cm below US average, would you say you have bad genes and shouldn't have been born?
Well no one's talking about height as the only factor..because it's correctable by early detection and treatment...i was talking about multiple undesirable traits, all of which require special treatment.i feel adoption is definitely a better option for such prospective parents instead of letting a child suffer from depression until he reaches mental maturity..
Quote from: zaozari on November 25, 2021, 03:12:25 PMEvaluating you by your height 12 cm below US average, would you say you have bad genes and shouldn't have been born?
ifnit were for a single trait, I would never have made this post..I don't want to delve deeper into this for personal reasons
Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on November 25, 2021, 03:09:11 PMAnother guy playing the race card on what could be a completely non-racial issue. Eugenics doesn't have to mean healthy, intelligent black people and Jewish people need to be wiped out. Everything Hitler liked isn't necessarily always bad, and everything he hated isn't necessarily always good.
I am not "playing any card". I think it was maybe not your intention but it is conceptually a racist idea also. For example, the gene for sickle cell anemia is more common in Africa (while other "nature" diverse issues occur elsewhere). Who would decide who can and who can't have children? Having children is a responsibility but also a right of human beings. And as I said soon we will be able to prevent (and treat) genetic diseases). But it's not the same as the other guy calls "bad genes". What the f*** are "bad genes"? Not a single scientist understands that idea.
Einstein for example had fuc***** "bad genes" for height, maybe... but maybe other "better" genes than ourselves here. And what about culture, nature and epigenetic phenomena?
Sorry, but not allowing some people from having children is just a simplistic, dangerous, inhuman, totally outdated idea.
Regarding adoption I would also prefer more people do it than "forcing" biology in cases of really bad fertility health. But it's not others' decision...
PS: Hitler's good ideas?! Like what?! ( it's a rethoric question, I won't even respond)
Quote from: yash on November 25, 2021, 03:16:50 PMWell no one's talking about height as the only factor..because it's correctable by early detection and treatment...i was talking about multiple undesirable traits, all of which require special treatment.i feel adoption is definitely a better option for such prospective parents instead of letting a child suffer from depression until he reaches mental maturity..
Just to add that except extreme cases, it's not detectable until adolescence, because individual growth curves are different. And it's not allways "treatable" neither. Prescription of Human Growth Hormone fails half of the times. And then, only partially solving, more or less out proportions, risky and expensive CLL...
(I see you had surgery recently. I wish you all the best and didn't want to annoy)
Gtfo to all incels around this forum
In this topic, you included?
married 35 years,4 kids (2 are nurses, one with Post grad quals in obgyn) 11 grandkids, 130 IQ, 7 inch d*ck, 160 k income, 20 BMI, 950 Testosterone (natural), house , cars, Hons degree in Elec Eng, work in Med Eng helping cancer patients - srs GTFO with ur eugenics cr@p.
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