Wow I didn't know Apo did arm lengthening either. No wonder he doesn't look too bad. The steroids help him too.
That's quite a commitment he's made. Tibs/femurs & humerus. Honestly I would love to meet this guy IRL and have a beer with him. Online though, he's not a very useful presence and I'm glad he doesn't post here. Old forum has too much of a hostile dck measuring contest or locker room atmosphere and it's mostly due to his influence. Feels a bit like a shrine he's built just for himself and his "circle". I respect the dedication to LL though.
As for the OP pic, I think he would have been better off doing femurs. The tibias look a little long. But no, I don't think anyone would really know what to make of it if they saw him. I doubt they'd recognize it because people don't generally know this surgery exists. He must have had long tibias to begin with, since 6 cm is not too much.
Overall, we'd have to ask him to know, but the questions would be: Are you happier being taller with abnormally long shins, or would you rather be short again? I'm guessing he'd say he prefers being taller. Most people who do this seem to.
Have you ever heard about the rule that your sitting height should be about 51% of your overall height to have ideal proportions. ?
This is me after 6cm, at a height of 183cm with a 183/184cm wingspan. As you can tell, the tibia are just as long as femurs. When I walk down a street with windowed reflective walls it is unnerving to see the knee so high. Obviously, lengthening between the two segments, with the tibia LL at 3-4cm, and femurs 5-6cm, would be ideal and able to be concealed well. I will say that being taller does outweigh the disproportion, but having the length in proportion by two surgeries would have been more ideal, and an absolute ideal of course would have been being 184cm naturally...
Is there a negative sie effect of the lengthening besides the slight disproportion?
In terms of sports or in general physical activities?
Yes. The scars from external inhibit you from wearing shorts in the summer without embarrassment. I need to find a viable manner of getting rid of them that isn't thousands of dollars. Athleticism will simply never be the same. I can do pretty much everything now, but it just feels clumsy compared to before. I can run, but I don't know how it looks to others, and try to avoid it when possible. It's hard to say if I regret it fully. There are days when I do and days when I don't, depending on the circumstances of the day.
Hey Polycrates, when did you have your tibia LL? I'm not too familiar with your story.
I feel like proportions really are just what the individual person wants for their own aesthetics. I always thought I had short tibias, but Dr. G measured me in Milano, and said my femurs were short and that I was a great candidate for internal femur LL. I did 7cm, and my femurs only look a tad long when I pull my pants up in front of the mirror (but they are also still fairly thin compared to how they used to be, with more muscle, they'll look great). I might do another inch next year and I still think I'll look ok. Some have warned against it, but most seem to think I will still be mostly proportionate after another femur inch.
Has anyone ever commented on your proportions, or this this just your personal dissatisfaction? I agree, in a perfect world, we'd all do two LLs to keep the proportions...but LL is such an expensive and arduous process that I think most of us are ok with slightly messed up proportions for the height gain (and to be done after one LL).
I would do another inch in tibias, but even for an inch, it's like a ridiculously long recovery time. So, I'd rather deal with slightly long femurs (they look fine now) and be 5'9" and be done with this sh*t once and for all (while also avoiding more overtly visible scars).
No one has commented outright, but there have been numerous occasions where people will stare down and then up at me as I enter a room. This might just be normal human nature, but it's not something I ever noticed before. I remember entering a police station and asking a woman police officer for directions to where I needed to go to fill out a form. As I left, I swore I heard her mention to the other, "don't his legs look really long?" At one place I was working at briefly, it seemed that everyone was watching my legs at one point, so I think rumour spread that something was off about me and people wanted to check it out.
I have 97-99th percentile knee height, so I do think the human subconscious can detect something astray, especially when you have to demonstrate bending and kneeling in front of others. I hate sitting with 6'2+ guys because their femurs and torsos dwarf mine, but my knees are quite a bit higher than theirs always.
Quote from: Polycrates. on June 29, 2015, 02:09:22 PMNo one has commented outright, but there have been numerous occasions where people will stare down and then up at me as I enter a room. This might just be normal human nature, but it's not something I ever noticed before. I remember entering a police station and asking a woman police officer for directions to where I needed to go to fill out a form. As I left, I swore I heard her mention to the other, "don't his legs look really long?" At one place I was working at briefly, it seemed that everyone was watching my legs at one point, so I think rumour spread that something was off about me and people wanted to check it out.
I have 97-99th percentile knee height, so I do think the human subconscious can detect something astray, especially when you have to demonstrate bending and kneeling in front of others. I hate sitting with 6'2+ guys because there femurs and torsos dwarf mine, but my knees are quite a bit higher than there's always.
What are your femur/tibia and height/wingspan ratios? I've never had people stare at me or make any weird comments about my proportions. My tibia and femurs are equal, and my height and wingspan are equal.
My wingspan is equal to my current height (173). When I sit next to taller guys on the train, my femurs don't seem crazily out of proportion or anything at all. I'm fairly confident my femurs would handle another inch, but want to see what my legs look like with some more bulk first (particularly my quads and ass need work).
I think only people who know about LL like we do are the only ones that would really notice. Polycrates, at your work place, maybe word might have gotten out, so that's why people were looking. I'm sure you don't look that much out of proportion where people would notice/comment on a day-to-day basis.
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