Hello guys, I absolutely want to have surgery by the end of May until August / end of August 2022. It can be complicated because I'm only 19 years old and I don't know anything about the procedures. That's why I want to do it for next holidays, people around me will just think I got taller naturally. So I'm looking for a safe method (that allow me to fully recover and squat) and hospital that costs less than 11k € (all fees included, hotel, food, flights (I'm from france), followup visits, daily physio ...) and finally that can get me at least 6.5cm taller (no matter tibia or femur, tell me what is the safest please) (also no matter india, iran, china or anywhere else, just cheap and safe).
I saw this post about Dr Naveen Talwar, is it true and safe ?? 
I also want to know about all procedures, papers (I read about x-ray here ?? ), pain, side effect and the impact on my weightlifting and mma career (I saw someone on youtube who could squat after timblenghtening). Ty.
Safe surgery less than 11k€ including all fees
Cheap, fast and safe? Man, you should choose 2 out of 3. Probably externals with Parihar from India or some respectable doctors from Russia with the same externals would be pretty cheap and safe, but really not fast. You should dedicate around 1 year, not a summer holidays.
P. S. There aren't a lot (or maybe at all) diaries here by Dr. Talwar so by the rule of thumb I should avoid unknown or little known doctors from the third world countries. Also even if you choose him, 6,5 cm with a LON on tibia would require you much more time to regain walking gait than several months. You will only have nailing after 3 months.
P. P. S. You gave post from 2014. Be sure, now prices are different.
P. P. P. S. If you are thinking about professional MMA career, then forget about lengthening. It's not about regaining the physical abilities. It's about the fact that you won't exercise too long. I mean around 2 years. It's too long for the young potential MMA professional.
Two problems
1) LON/LATN will be extremely painful. It will also leave multiple deep scars on your thigh/shin, making it obvious you got the surgery.
2) If you want to lift weights and do MMA, don't do this surgery. Longer bones especially when disproportionate, are more likely to fracture. You won't be able to do much running until nail removal 1/1.5 years later. So it won't be 2024 until you can lift/fight.
Ty for yours answers mates ! What if I choose fast and cheap (11k) ? is it possible ? when I say "fast" I mean just enough to go back to school after 3 months and walking, no need to do weightlifting directly. Does LON on femur requires less time than on tibia to regain walking ? how much time do we have to wear the external fixator ? I did not understand your last sentence, "around 2 years" we can't do weightlifting or mma anymore after 2 years ??
Quote from: MorningStar on October 03, 2021, 09:46:58 PMCheap, fast and safe? Man, you should choose 2 out of 3. Probably externals with Parihar from India or some respectable doctors from Russia with the same externals would be pretty cheap and safe, but really not fast. You should dedicate around 1 year, not a summer holidays.
P. S. There aren't a lot (or maybe at all) diaries here by Dr. Talwar so by the rule of thumb I should avoid unknown or little known doctors from the third world countries. Also even if you choose him, 6,5 cm with a LON on tibia would require you much more time to regain walking gait than several months. You will only have nailing after 3 months.
P. P. S. You gave post from 2014. Be sure, now prices are different.
P. P. P. S. If you are thinking about professional MMA career, then forget about lengthening. It's not about regaining the physical abilities. It's about the fact that you won't exercise too long. I mean around 2 years. It's too long for the young potential MMA professional.
Quote from: SirStretchAlot on October 04, 2021, 12:36:30 AMTwo problems
1) LON/LATN will be extremely painful. It will also leave multiple deep scars on your thigh/shin, making it obvious you got the surgery.
2) If you want to lift weights and do MMA, don't do this surgery. Longer bones especially when disproportionate, are more likely to fracture. You won't be able to do much running until nail removal 1/1.5 years later. So it won't be 2024 until you can lift/fight.
Are the scares inevitable ? I read doctors that tell that the scars aren't very visible and they will disappear with time, is it true ?
No problem if I have to wait 2 years to squat and fight but can I walk 3 months after surgery, go back to school without external fixators, stay 8 hours standing and without any problem as long as I don't run or lift ?
After 2-3 years, I will be able to squat like him ??
Is LON/LATN more safier, cheaper and faster on tibia or femur ??
If these are the scares, no problem and I'm much hairier than him in my leg
Yes, you won't do MMA for 1,5-2 years. Weightlifting is almost the same. Later you can.
Sorry, man, but no method lets you to walk completely normal after 3 months. Considering your age, maybe 5 months would be realistic if we talk about LON/LATN on tibia. At least in theory. How it's in practice - no one can say. Probably not, if you go to Turkey, Vietnam, India or other very cheap place.
No respectable doctor will ever do LON/LATN on femur. That's a torturing and crippling way to do LL. You can read detailed diary about that, also watch videos, how walking looks like after 4-5 months post first surgery (in 10 page): http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=66610.0 so forget about LON/LATN on femur.
My strong advice: wait. Do not rush. Finish the school, save more money, save more time. It's time consuming thing. And normally all tries to rush and push that goes to unwanted complications.
Btw, what's your current height?
Quote from: Kenshiro on October 03, 2021, 09:02:58 PMHello guys, I absolutely want to have surgery by the end of May until August / end of August 2022. It can be complicated because I'm only 19 years old and I don't know anything about the procedures. That's why I want to do it for next holidays, people around me will just think I got taller naturally. So I'm looking for a safe method (that allow me to fully recover and squat) and hospital that costs less than 11k € (all fees included, hotel, food, flights (I'm from france), followup visits, daily physio ...) and finally that can get me at least 6.5cm taller (no matter tibia or femur, tell me what is the safest please) (also no matter india, iran, china or anywhere else, just cheap and safe).
I saw this post about Dr Naveen Talwar, is it true and safe ??
I also want to know about all procedures, papers (I read about x-ray here ?? ), pain, side effect and the impact on my weightlifting and mma career (I saw someone on youtube who could squat after timblenghtening). Ty.
Don't do LON/LATN if you want to do MMA later on. Save up and go for the internals with Mahboubian. You will still have athleticism decline but not as great as LON/LATN procedure.
LATN/LON scars are deep and permanent. On the tibias, they are also extremely visible.
As others have said, 3 months is when you stop lengthening, not when you can walk. 5 months at the earliest is when you can go back to school. With LON/LATN you will likely only be able to do your tibias, which means 6.5-7cm max.
I would save up 55k EUR and do internal nailing on femurs. It's safer (less likely to die from an infection), less painful, fewer scars, and you will be able to walk properly after the first week.
Ty so much guys. I'm currently 168cm.
I did not understand one thing, MorningStar told me that "no method will allow me to walk after three months" and SirStretchalot "I would save up 55k EUR and do internal nailing on femurs. It's safer (less likely to die from an infection), less painful, fewer scars, and you will be able to walk properly after the first week." Finally, will I be able to walk after one week with internal ?? if yes, how much the cheapest one in the world cost (with all fees) ? I can try to reach 20k 25k but 50k impossible as student...
Quote from: Kenshiro on October 04, 2021, 04:31:29 PMTy so much guys. I'm currently 168cm.
I did not understand one thing, MorningStar told me that "no method will allow me to walk after three months" and SirStretchalot "I would save up 55k EUR and do internal nailing on femurs. It's safer (less likely to die from an infection), less painful, fewer scars, and you will be able to walk properly after the first week." Finally, will I be able to walk after one week with internal ?? if yes, how much the cheapest one in the world cost (with all fees) ? I can try to reach 20k 25k but 50k impossible as student...
Sorry, man, but I don't know, how to comment SirStretchalot statement. Maybe he can explain. I just can say, that at the moment, when I am writing to you, I wear frames. I am doing LATN on tibias. I can't even keep my balance while standing. I am not even talking about walking unaided. And I am 39 days after the surgery. OK, let's say I am weak as hell. This could be. But there are around 6 other guys who are doing along with me right now. 1 of them like me - LATN tibias, 5 - femur internals. They are 20-50 days after the surgery. And no of them walk unaided (I mean without walker or crutches). And actually even if in theory you could somehow walk unaided, in practice it's just too dangerous.
Btw, one thing I can asure you - femur internals are more painful than frames on tibia. Any method on femurs is more painful. Because femurs has far more muscle, vessels, nerves. But also true is that femurs heal faster. But SirStretchalot is right that femur internals gives less scars.
That's my diary: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=67949.0
That's another's guy diary, who is doing internals: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=67810.0
Do you think it's possible to walk without any problem after 5 months 7cm LON femurs ? are the secondary effect on athletic performance that much greater with external than internal or it's negligible and we will be able to squat 140kg after 3-4 years with external ?
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