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Posted on Jan 3, 2020, 5:51 pm
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I'm about 169cm, and I come from a country where the average is 173cm. However, I studied in Australia, where I developed a height neurosis over the years due to people being taller where I went. I plan to go home soon.

My goal was to gain 3-4cm. If I could do that, I would be overjoyed, and I think I will genuinely have my height neurosis cured.

When I was first active on this forum 2 months ago, I first wanted internal femurs. But due to high risk of fat embolism and cost of Stryde, I said no. I then wanted to do pure externals. But I don't want 6-8 months of recovery. It's not worth it. I then wanted to do LON tibias. I have enough for Dr Donghoon Lee, along with backup for complications. But no procedure is absolutely safe. A lot of the risks of LL are not just lengthening (which you can control, for example stopping at 2cm if you have to), but surgical. You could get PE, Fat emboli, Compartment syndrome, deep infection, etc. And you will never know how your body will respond to this, until you do it. Do all the research in the world, but some people will have complications, and it could be you.

Then it comes down to how you can estimate risk. There seems to be a lot of misinformation around. Even for the best doctors. People have reported different numbers from Paley regarding his fat emboli occurrence rate. Some articles on this forum have provided competing accounts of true success rates with this surgery. In an article called compendium of outcomes, there are significant numbers of bad outcomes. Maybe they lengthened too much. Maybe they went to a bad doctor. But even if most of them did those things, there will always be some who actually went to a good doctor, and actually did what they were supposed to do. People say some doctors are the best in the world for this. Dr Lee looks like one of the best LON there is. But all doctors are also businessmen. Everyone, even and sometimes especially the best doctors, sell themselves pretty hard and say they are safe. Well sure, by their definition of safe. But I guess I am unsure how to really parse the truth. I will need to do more research here.

Everything else in my life is going well. I will return to a prestigious high powered career. I have a decent personality (not according to me). I am not Brad Pitt but I am maybe 6/10. And I guess I am not even that short in my home country.

Money aside (I would pay 100k if I could gain 4cm with guranteed safety), with everything that could go wrong, especially the risks I can't control (the 9 days after surgery and the way my body reacts to the assault of an extremely invasive surgery and being essentially drowned in painkillers), is this really worth it? I consider 3cm to be really good, 3.5 to 4cm would really kill off any height neurosis I would have (I would be average, what more could I ask for?). I don't care much for athletics. But the risks just seems so poorly defined, and there seems to me to be so much misinformation. I don't expect that I will be one of the good outcomes. I could be that one fluke who got fked up at a good doc with a short lengthening amount. I could have severe arthritis in old age. Catastrophe is a possibility. Why am I interested? The same reason you all are: women. I want to feel validated by being attractive, and this is superficial but I will be honest with you guys.

Sorry this is a long post but I am working through these thoughts. But to people who are considering LL, who have done LL. What is your honest advice for this. Is it worth it? How dangerous is it? Is this all...fking crazy?

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Posted on Jun 22, 2020, 2:27 pm
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I truly appreciate this. Thank you everyone.

I'm deciding to test it out in my country first. Lately, I've been thinking hard about my work and working on very exciting personal projects. The desire is fading.

That said, I might seriously consider a 3-3.5cm pure externals in the future. That needs about 6 months conservatively for consolidation (I will be slightly below 30, male, and I don't smoke, sleep well, exercise hard, perfect health). I will overpay for a good doctor, probably Donghoon. I think the procedure has higher risk for some complications I am very willing to accept (numbness, scarring, slower recovery in muscle), but lower risk for complications I find unacceptable (PE/DVT), etc. I want to do it because life is long and height pays benefits over the long term. Even at 0.5mm/day, lengthening will take 2 months with my conservative amounts. I think that I can work remotely after 2 months, since I work in tech. The true downtime then is really 2-3 months. Supposing the risk of death/disability is truly very low, and anaesthesia does not present cognitive side effects, and I vet Dr Lee by speaking to multiple ex patients, this is a viable plan in the future. Why only 3cm? Is it worth it? 3cm + lifts is 5cm. That's two inches. Yeah that's enough. And I have already been gifted a decent starting height, I would not want to fk with god and chance. This is NOT the place to be taking potentially life-destroying risk, at least because for me my height has not destroyed my life.

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