Hey all!
I've been a member on this LL forum for just about a week now and have been reading so many stories from those who have had successful LL procedures. This community is awesome I wish I would've found it sooner as I got the surgery done in 2012 to fix a height discrepancy as part of the release study. I'm interested to see how many more people are considering the surgery vs. back then.
I've recently started Cyborg 4 Life as a social resource on leg lengthening topics. I created a website: www.cyborg4life.com and a YouTube channel to cover topics I get asked all the time to help answer questions you all may have about the surgery.
I'm always looking for more topics to cover if anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear?
Also started a podcast to hear stories of those interested in the surgery as well as those who had it done. I'd love to invite some of you guys on so you can share your story.
This surgery changed my life for the better and I feel hearing your stories on social platforms could be motivating for someone else who is considering the procedure.
Thanks!
Hi Cyborg4life, great video you made.
How your recovery has been ? Do you feel any difference, pain or limitation between both legs ?
One advise if I may regarding your video : you seems to promote a bit Cosmetic limb lengthening but I am sure you are aware that the process is risky and bad cases still happens. As you never talked about risk in your video, if you want to give a full picture, you should do so.
Hey 5cm Stryde thanks for the feedback. You're right as much as I try not to be, I am slightly biased towards the surgery as it did help me so much in getting rid of my height imbalance and gain me near 2" as a result (after all you're only as tall as your shortest leg).
But I will take your advice and make a video topics discussing the risks and challenges because although things are great now, it was a very demanding process as I'm sure those of you who had it done can agree on.
As far as my recovery it has been amazing. I also do natural bodybuilding so I was able to use my knowledge of improving muscle strength, mass and recover faster than normal according to my doctor. I also make an effort to stretch after workouts and supplement with joint complexes etc.
Thanks again!
Quote from: cyborg4life on February 17, 2020, 10:22:01 PMHey 5cm Stryde thanks for the feedback. You're right as much as I try not to be, I am slightly biased towards the surgery as it did help me so much in getting rid of my height imbalance and gain me near 2" as a result (after all you're only as tall as your shortest leg).
But I will take your advice and make a video topics discussing the risks and challenges because although things are great now, it was a very demanding process as I'm sure those of you who had it done can agree on.
As far as my recovery it has been amazing. I also do natural bodybuilding so I was able to use my knowledge of improving muscle strength, mass and recover faster than normal according to my doctor. I also make an effort to stretch after workouts and supplement with joint complexes etc.
Thanks again!
Now this is a realistic type of post. No weird guy saying they’re putting 8cm on tibia and all this dumb crap. Or going for the longest amount just to be crippled smh. But a person who got it done within the safe limits ( even if it’s b/c of discrepancy ) and your leg looks fully healthy and muscular etc. I’m halfway saved and doing the process next year - most likely with parihar ( since he’s cheaper but trained with paley) .
My question is Do you feel like that leg has lost any athletic ability or anything of the sort . And do you feel any knee pain from the reaming of rod. ( and what supplements do you think helped healed you if not).
Also when you do plan on updating your forum. I’d be interested to see what to stock up on ( protein / vitamin wise - since technically I’d be leaving USA for at least 3-4months) as plan is to do 5.3cm on tibia as well.
Thanks cam007 yeah so to be honest I can say within the first year, year and half or so I did feel the knee they reamed was not as stable due to some patellar tendon instability (as tendons take much longer to heal due to poor blood flow etc.)
But after consistent Astym from therapy, strengthening workouts and improving my flexibility, I noticed it much less. I'd say I barely thought of it after 2 years post op. The supplements I took to assist was type I, II & III collagen, vitamin C, bony matrix, joint complex with MSM, cissus quadrangularis, Fish Oil, etc. I could go on. I will try to make a longer post when I dig up my old notes on my rehab and recovery plan.
As far as supplements I definitely recommend a protein shake for simple protein addition (easy cleanup not to mention need for added protein), the supplements I mentioned, multi vitamin, vitamin D3 5000-10,000iu, bioperine for enhanced absorption, and that's pretty much what I can remember off top of my head but I will plan to update.
Wish you the best on getting it done! Keep us updated!
Quote from: cyborg4life on February 19, 2020, 06:19:10 AMThanks cam007 yeah so to be honest I can say within the first year, year and half or so I did feel the knee they reamed was not as stable due to some patellar tendon instability (as tendons take much longer to heal due to poor blood flow etc.)
But after consistent Astym from therapy, strengthening workouts and improving my flexibility, I noticed it much less. I'd say I barely thought of it after 2 years post op. The supplements I took to assist was type I, II & III collagen, vitamin C, bony matrix, joint complex with MSM, cissus quadrangularis, Fish Oil, etc. I could go on. I will try to make a longer post when I dig up my old notes on my rehab and recovery plan.
As far as supplements I definitely recommend a protein shake for simple protein addition (easy cleanup not to mention need for added protein), the supplements I mentioned, multi vitamin, vitamin D3 5000-10,000iu, bioperine for enhanced absorption, and that's pretty much what I can remember off top of my head but I will plan to update.
Wish you the best on getting it done! Keep us updated!
Great info I wrote a list and most off that was on it before writing to you so that made me feel good about my research.
I also had “beef gelatin” since it’s good protein and gelatin is pretty much Collagen. Don’t know how much that’ll help lol.
I know the body will “feel it” since it’s been modified (I.e. I had bonding done on some teeth and for a month or two I kept feeling pulsing near where it was bonding and my chewing change during that time becuase I would subconsciously go near that area while eating). With that said, the unstable feeling you had , was it pain, did it stop you from anything or was it more of just somethings different? And when did you feel comfortable or normal enough to do sports and get ya legs back to being muscular ?
Side note: I’m actually interested In your site and hopefully you get that forum up. Too many people advocating crazy amounts, or supporting dangerous lengths and many people talk without actually getting things done or placing facts on here . They just care about the height so much they don’t think of the risks that increase EXPONENTIALLY with each .5cm it seems. It’s a little disheartening becuase it’s extra research when reading peoples experiences to see what’s real and what makes sense.
So thanks for the tips and interesting videos. As of now I’m targeting this winter 2020 or beginning 2021. I’ve done consults/questioning with a few docs and Still seeing who else is respectable in my budget ~35k and if I can take enough time off prefer to externals to not deal with the % knee pain if I can. But most likely it’s looking like LoN
Awesome man seems your research has served you well! Yeah beef gelatin pretty good bio-availability so that's a good one too...note taken.
Yeah so the unstable feeling was definitely a bit of pain at first but probably more so getting used to my lower leg being elevated and the left knee taking more force as it was equally distributed vs. before the torque from the height imbalance etc. But again, I expected some getting used to the new wheels and within 3 months post consolidation (7-8 months post op) I was fine squatting 315x8 times...(probably have the video somewhere because I remember I made it to show my doctor.)
Haha I know, if the risks and complications weren't an issue sure we could all be 6'5" (albeit with crappy proportions), but there are limitations and if people want to be taller and FUNCTIONAL it's important to respect those limits as you mentioned.
I have heard recently from an interested candidate that the surgeons have started implanting the nails subcapsularly for tibias (I haven't confirmed this yet) but if they do say, insert in lower quad fascia as it becomes patellar tendon that will get more blood flow, heal faster and avoids mid-knee instability as I had and potential tendonitis later on. Not sure yet but possibly?
Thanks for checking out the videos as I have more topics I want to cover and one of the big ones being getting athletic ability back and rebounding without complications as well as the before vs. after quality of life.
Cyborg4life great info brotha. I love that you are sharing tips on how to maximize recovery. A lot of people here become obsessed with getting pure height without weighing the risk factors and balancing out height gains and functionality. Looking forward to your content!
Quote from: TheAlchemist on February 19, 2020, 02:55:13 PMCyborg4life great info brotha. I love that you are sharing tips on how to maximize recovery. A lot of people here become obsessed with getting pure height without weighing the risk factors and balancing out height gains and functionality. Looking forward to your content!
Thanks my man! That's how I think of it, what's the point of buying a set of new wheels just for show without being able to take them for a spin.
In fact here's a video I did a 2.5 years after my procedure with PRECICE in 2012.
I'm glad see you had a great turnout with your Stryde LL procedure also.
Quote from: TheAlchemist on February 19, 2020, 02:55:13 PMCyborg4life great info brotha. I love that you are sharing tips on how to maximize recovery. A lot of people here become obsessed with getting pure height without weighing the risk factors and balancing out height gains and functionality. Looking forward to your content!
Exactly!!!! Bro go read the section where they say full recovery and people start off by saying
“Full recovery varies by person and what they consider is full recovery”.
And I’m like wtf! No, full recovery means doing Pretty much ANYTHING you could’ve done had you not done the surgery.
Cyborgs video and a few others have shone when you stay within the “safer risk” zone by a reputable doctor , you are able to do pretty much anything you were doing before.
If you’re one of those max the cms per segment to get the most out of the surgery then No doesn’t look like you’re going to be okay lol.
Glad there’s still a few sane people on here. Lol.
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