taller_in_kiev shillin for his doctor

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I think its unfortunate that you are dismissing bad cases of LL and blame  the patients.
I mean we are talking about:
- Bone non-union diary
- 1 cm leg discrepency on one leg after lengthening diary
- suspected fake diaries

Not that its allowed anyway but I wish you shilled for a safer surgeon, this way no potential patient would get hurt.

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Tlannister, I am sorry, but you are again talking out of your backside, that's very rude!  Where are those patients? They are welcome to come forward here.

Every doctor will have a bad case or two, but should be judged on overall history and success rate. I personally know of many successful patients of Dr Jamal's, patients from all over the world, Canada, the US, Germany, Far East, Middle East...

It is very clear that you have an agenda against this doctor.  For what reason may I ask, other than being a promoter of his competitors?

Clearly you are disturbed that someone with a good result from this doctor has come along and is negating your propaganda.

You are stooping to new lows. Please redeem yourself.

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Tlannister, I am sorry, but you are again talking out of your backside, that's very rude!  Where are those patients? They are welcome to come forward here.

Every doctor will have a bad case or two, but should be judged on overall history and success rate. I personally know of may successful patients of Dr Jamal's, patients from all over the world, Canada, the US, Germany, Far East, Middle East...

It is very clear that you have an agenda against Dr Jamal.  For what reason may I ask, other than being a promoter of his competitors?

Clearly you are disturbed that someone with a good result from this doctor has come along and is negating your propaganda.

You are stooping to new lows. Please redeem yourself.

Look, you don't seem like you process criticism in a healthy way so I am gonna keep this short.

Why would I just wake up one day and say "hey lets hate on this doctor abu jamal nemr" ?
I am not hating on anyone but misinformation. You are presenting this surgeon as one of the elite, yet neither his nail nor his services are documented with enough diaries . In fact, as mentioned above, few of the diaries on the old forum had horrible outcomes.

If you had shilled for Catagni, Philly, Paley, rozbruch, Mahaboubian, Donghoon, Birkholtz and EVEN Betz and guichet, I would report it to mods for advertisement. But I wouldnt create a thread to alert the members as in this case, because what you are doing is leading innocent patients into unknown territory. This forum was created for exactly that reason. Admin on old forum presented Dr. Sarin and the likes as the best thing ever for comission, people ended up with permanent damages.

Abu may be a good surgeon but we need more diaries, successful diaries to form an opinion. Meanwhile stop polluting other threads with advertisement.

They are not as big a problem as trolls and paid disinfo agents. The user Cinderella shot you down under the thread about "LL veterans -how is your running?" They claimed you never had surgery, yet you had no comeback for them.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=1956.0

You can understand why this creates doubt, particularly with a name like yours.

If someone claims to have a good result with a particular doctor, isn't it natural for them to recommend that doctor? Isn't that the whole point of this forum, so people can decide based on past patient results? 

People like tlannister on the other hand are nothing more than paid agents with a sinister agenda. He/she is clearly a promoter of precise/paley and obviously very pissed that I am here boasting an excellent result with another doctor/nail.  He/she tried to trash the Bliskunov/Jamal nail under the doctor's thread but fell flat on his/her face and is now resorting to desperate measures to stop me.

I want to say that a large percentage of the patient diaries here are a total waste of time to read. They are for the most part incentivised by the doctors. I should know because I was also asked to write at the time of my LL journey. I did so, but wasn't interested in updating or answering questions. I moved on with my life, as most LLers do. There is limited value in learning about the day to day experience of an LLer. Sure you're gonna have some aches and pains here and there this day or that day, but having longer bones is rather pointless if you can't make a good recovery.  It's the finished article people should be looking at and I am one of very few who has come forward and posted photos and videos, giving an honest and actual representation of life post LL. In my case, it happens to a positive result and I am fully aware of the jealousy this creates with some. There is however nothing to be envious about. I have many non LL related challenges in my life currently, which I will not go into here.


Of course he is a fake patient. He never had surgery.
You can check his posts and that he has been banned multiple times. His only aim is to attack Monegal. Maybe he just wants to harm or he might work for other LL doctors.
Just check los posts...never give a single detail, never posted an X Ray.

And he says I work for Monegal.... I hope you never go through what I had to after my fracture.
That s how he behaves...attacking true patients and stepping in other people’s journals to spread his ah...

He even posted his paranoia in Unicorn’s diary!!! How can he be this miserable??

And BIG YES: user NOTATROLL is a FAKE patient

And I can challenge you: post your x rays and I will post mines! Go for it

Of course he is a fake patient. He never had surgery.
You can check his posts and that he has been banned multiple times. His only aim is to attack Monegal. Maybe he just wants to harm or he might work for other LL doctors.
Just check los posts...never give a single detail, never posted an X Ray.

And he says I work for Monegal.... I hope you never go through what I had to after my fracture.
That s how he behaves...attacking true patients and stepping in other people’s journals to spread his ah...

He even posted his paranoia in Unicorn’s diary!!! How can he be this miserable??

And BIG YES: user NOTATROLL is a FAKE patient

And I can challenge you: post your x rays and I will post mines! Go for it

Listen to me. I don't post my xrays here because of people like you who work for Monegal. He's full of revenge. You can post as many xrays as you want. You're doctor's staff. That doesn't mean you're real. I've proved to many people here I'm real and I've posted evidence in the forum and PM. You haven't.

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The guy is a promoter and I'm sure he is associated with Dr. Jamal. Im reading Rocky's journal and it seems too positive. No xray etc. The photos he actually posted looked like they have been taken 8 years ago. No modern smart phone takes such photos. It looks very fishy.

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doomsday thanks for posting here and not continuing to engage him in the other threads.
For regular readers of this forum who don't care about this debate, its annoying to open this website and see "paley stryde" threads having new posts only to be dissapointed when they see its off-topic abu jamal posts.

Please do not engage him in other threads than this.

Also you mentioned Rockys journal, i think its legit and I think he is going to have non-union. He posted an x-ray earlier in lengthening phase. There were no bone cloud, nothing. And kept lengthening 3-4 cm more.
Dr. jamal has had cases of non-union before.

https://imgur.com/a/e4zBEon

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Look, you don't seem like you process criticism in a healthy way so I am gonna keep this short.
No no, I am very open to criticism, just not hypocritical, unsubstantiated comments likes yours.

Quote from: tlannister on August 09, 2018, 05:08:30 PM

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There is no peer review for jamal nail at all. ISKD precice etc all have papers published by other doctors pointing out flaws etc. No such thing with dr Jamal nail. Plus non union cases, probable fake diaries. I would stay away, especially with his ridiculous price. $47K  for surgery in Ukraine HAHAHHAHAHAHAH

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I was looking for something useful in this thread.

It seems to me that some members still post immature comments that have no benefits to anyone in this forum.

What a disappointment.

Have a nice evening and may God show you the right path.

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tnallister, I try to be nice to you every time, each time I write some harsh words, I go back and modify my post before it's too late. But this time, I make no apologies. I am convinced you are a fake, a troll, nothing more. My last post was still kind to you because there was a crossover with your last post.
You created this thread specifically against me and Dr Jamal, and then you're so quick to post Rocky's x-ray here, where it doesn't belong, and further make your unwarranted comments.
It is far, far too early to say anything about Rocky's result. And even if there were a risk of any kind, it's not for you to say what you think. Let me tell you, Rocky's recovery will depend on a number of factors, but I assure you whatever you think is not one them.

You just cannot handle that I had an excellent result with this doctor you seem to have it in for. You ARE a paley/precise/stryde shill promoter.

Next email to admin.

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I emailed briefly with dr Jamal. He seems to be intelligent and know what he’s doing. My only issue is his cost is very expensive for his nail which is quite out dated to be honest. Then you factor in the flight ticket and your stay in another country and it’s much too expensive for most.  He does have some good diaries in here and doesn’t seem like a low tier surgeon.

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@Johnson1111, first of all thank you for your genuine input. Gets really tiring dealing with trolls after a while.

Dr Jamal's nail may have been around a lot longer, but that's because it was the original internal nail, as far as I know and it does the job as good as it ever did. I did my bilateral femurs 14 years ago don't forget. I don't wanna sound big headed but I have arguably one of the best results out there of any doctor. It's taken hard work from my side too, nothing good comes easy.
Also, this doctor's price includes all aftercare, any added complications (for which Paley asks to keep $30k aside) and even removal of the nails a couple of years down the line. Other surgeons such as Betz charge for that (€7k I hear).

I have asked the doctor if he can lend me a sample nail or two. If so, I will post a video about how it works, so people can more openly compare to the other nails.

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Update:

former patient just confirmed non-union. Had to replace jamal nail with another one and have bone graft.

Will moderators send out warning about this doctor? as I wrote in rockys diary. We are in 2018, we have come far in tech that non-union should not be considered as "normal" complication. It should warrant a warning sign on the surgeon.

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