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Posted on Nov 30, 2014, 7:37 am
#31

QuoteThats not the point...The point is that media influences heavily on female opinions about everything. In an alternate universe i think shorter people would been treated as little bit below taller because of natural attraction. But nothing like we have today not even close.. if there would be no social opinion grinded into peoples head from a box in the corner of the room every day for 50+ years. Then alot of stuff would not have stucked around about social stigma.


I understand the point. don't get me wrong tv exacerbates it. but RR is saying something completely different.

he is saying TV is the cause, and that therefore it has nothing to do with genetics, because it is all because of the media and TV.

anything on TV creates an imprint, but that doesn't mean tv is the primary source for the opinion.

tv just takes a natural genetic programing and then and then just builds on that.

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Posted on Nov 30, 2014, 7:59 am
#32

Quote from: ForcedPuberty on November 30, 2014, 07:37:19 AMI understand the point. don't get me wrong tv exacerbates it. but RR is saying something completely different.

he is saying TV is the cause, and that therefore it has nothing to do with genetics, because it is all because of the media and TV.

anything on TV creates an imprint, but that doesn't mean tv is the primary source for the opinion.

tv just takes a natural genetic programing and then and then just builds on that.



Yeah well they used alot of brick on this one.

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Posted on Nov 30, 2014, 9:34 am
#33

Quote from: ForcedPuberty on November 30, 2014, 07:14:56 AMI looked up dogota people before you said to. nothing comes up on google.

second iv read studies on many tribes where males of greater height command more social power and get given access to greater amounts of resources compared to their shorter stature counterparts. these tribes don't have TV's.


im sure you will have some weird tangent to argue though. its very funny the mental gymnastics people will force themselves to believe when they want to get ll, im sure you love to feel like a victim RR. poor you being discriminated against because of culture.

the evil womens are being means to you when normally without tv or media they would love you like a god. sure dude.

even though it happens in cultures that don't have media or tv. im sure there are exceptions to any rule but for the large part tv does not cause this, because it is present around the world where tv is not available. girls are attracted to better providers and taller men get more resources, in the west they are given more money, and in tribes they are given currency which does not necessarily mean money.



Datoga* look them up now.

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Posted on Nov 30, 2014, 1:14 pm
#34

first prove to me that they don't care about height. I can not find any such nonsense.

and second I stoped bothering because even if it is true it is null and void with the following findings.

women are allowed to have sex with the entire family that she marries into and it is their cultural norm for the man to take multiple wives to sleep and have sex with. this has jack   to do with women loving men who are shorter. in fact it has next to nothing to do with falling in love with a soul mate. your example is stupid. they just marry a bunch of women like some form of cattle and then those women are allowed in many cases to sleep with the males extended family.

the brother of the husband is allowed to fk the wife.............I repeat all the brothers of the husband are allowed to fk all of the multiple wives......... this has nothing to do with love and it has nothing to do with women falling in love with men who are shorter.


I never found any statements that the women don't care about height. all I found is the women don't care if they are cattle to men who collect multiple of them to enjoy as sex tools. sure the women are not allowed to have sex outside of marriage according to custom but this has nothing to do with women loving men who are shorter as equal to taller men.

African sociological review, 8, (1), 2004, pp.47-66

http://www.ajol.info/index.php/asr/article/viewFile/23236/19922

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Posted on Nov 30, 2014, 1:24 pm
#35

see image below.

I will change my statement.

women who are cattle and/or placed into marriages by parents without choice both don't care about male height.


but neither is this true love or a relationship. it is simply cattle.
when girls can actively choose to find love they will be attracted to men who are taller(all other things being equal) as taller men can provide better resources and security for them.

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Posted on Nov 30, 2014, 3:10 pm
#36

Quote from: ForcedPuberty on November 30, 2014, 07:14:56 AMI looked up dogota people before you said to. nothing comes up on google.

second iv read studies on many tribes where males of greater height command more social power and get given access to greater amounts of resources compared to their shorter stature counterparts. these tribes don't have TV's.


im sure you will have some weird tangent to argue though. its very funny the mental gymnastics people will force themselves to believe when they want to get ll, im sure you love to feel like a victim RR. poor you being discriminated against because of culture.

the evil womens are being means to you when normally without tv or media they would love you like a god. sure dude.

even though it happens in cultures that don't have media or tv. im sure there are exceptions to any rule but for the large part tv does not cause this, because it is present around the world where tv is not available. girls are attracted to better providers and taller men get more resources, in the west they are given more money, and in tribes they are given currency which does not necessarily mean money.


http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Piotr_Sorokowski/publication/230631934_Height_preferences_in_humans_may_not_be_universal_Evidence_from_the_Datoga_people_of_Tanzania/links/0046352730168746bd000000

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Posted on Nov 30, 2014, 5:19 pm
#37

my above statements are still irrefutable where women are treated as cattle to be collected on a multiple wives basis and then shared by all the men in the family and not for love.

but for arguments sake I will coment on the article.

1 it is a study based on scientific predictive modeling for a theoretical basis, these types of studies can easily be manipulated by incorrectly inferring base rates that are wrong. that is just 1 example of how you could change the results.

and 2) in actuality the study even lists that the dotoga men as an average are 166.7cm and women were on average 157.6cm. showing that in real world terms that on average they marry shorter women which is contrary to the model.

3) the study even lists contrary to you opinion stating: that even if men choose taller women that it was only 10% to 20% at best (depending on which ethnicity) which still is miniscule compared to average and majority of the population and in no way shows a preference for taller women but rather a less acute preference for height dominance for the male partner.

and finally if I were (a woman) and treated as cattle and part of a marriage where I was 1 of 6 wives to be used by a man AND ALL OF HIS BROTHERS AND RELATIVES  AS PLAY THINGS...... then I too would probably say I want to be in a relationship where the man and women is equal height, it could be a psychological response to the women stating that they want to be treated as equals and not as cattle.

note the women never said they wanted to be taller, they wanted to be equal.

there are so many flaws to this theoretical predictive hypothesis, but in reality even these tribes by the vast majority choose smaller women for wives than the stature of the men are. and this is all meaningless with the fact that women are treated as play things to be taken in multiples like cattle, this is not mate selection based on love........... it is slavery to women where rich people can buy more wives. im sure if I could buy wives and as many as I want I would probably buy a few taller than myself.

and don't forget the study even stated that dotoga people(men) as a majority choose the model where the man was the tallest and the woman was the shortest. it was only the women who choose to be equal in footing........ I bet they don't feel like they are treated as equals given the polygamist society.

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Posted on Nov 30, 2014, 7:58 pm
#38

Quote from: ForcedPuberty on November 30, 2014, 05:19:25 PMmy above statements are still irrefutable where women are treated as cattle to be collected on a multiple wives basis and then shared by all the men in the family and not for love.

but for arguments sake I will coment on the article.

1 it is a study based on scientific predictive modeling for a theoretical basis, these types of studies can easily be manipulated by incorrectly inferring base rates that are wrong. that is just 1 example of how you could change the results.

and 2) in actuality the study even lists that the dotoga men as an average are 166.7cm and women were on average 157.6cm. showing that in real world terms that on average they marry shorter women which is contrary to the model.

3) the study even lists contrary to you opinion stating: that even if men choose taller women that it was only 10% to 20% at best (depending on which ethnicity) which still is miniscule compared to average and majority of the population and in no way shows a preference for taller women but rather a less acute preference for height dominance for the male partner.

and finally if I were (a woman) and treated as cattle and part of a marriage where I was 1 of 6 wives to be used by a man AND ALL OF HIS BROTHERS AND RELATIVES  AS PLAY THINGS...... then I too would probably say I want to be in a relationship where the man and women is equal height, it could be a psychological response to the women stating that they want to be treated as equals and not as cattle.

note the women never said they wanted to be taller, they wanted to be equal.

there are so many flaws to this theoretical predictive hypothesis, but in reality even these tribes by the vast majority choose smaller women for wives than the stature of the men are. and this is all meaningless with the fact that women are treated as play things to be taken in multiples like cattle, this is not mate selection based on love........... it is slavery to women where rich people can buy more wives. im sure if I could buy wives and as many as I want I would probably buy a few taller than myself.

and don't forget the study even stated that dotoga people(men) as a majority choose the model where the man was the tallest and the woman was the shortest. it was only the women who choose to be equal in footing........ I bet they don't feel like they are treated as equals given the polygamist society.


The Dotoga overwhelmingly choose couples where men and women were of equal height or when the men were shorter. Your psychosocial speculation about the Dotoga culture is completely without merit in the absence of any research to confirm it. You can't use your meaning my speculation as some sort of rebuttal to this comprehensive study on the absence of height preference in Dotoga culture. also, to refer to the women as "playthings" would be a ridiculous western interpretation of Dotoga culture. Do these women feel that they are being exploited or taking advantage of, or do they simply see it as a benign part of their culture? Judging their culture's sexual attitudes through contemporary western feminism is absolutely ridiculous.

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Posted on Nov 30, 2014, 9:25 pm
#39

your mental in the head.


I posted the reference to the medical journals of sociology and the journal is fully referenced to other medical journals.

its funny how you just selectively see things. but sure keep lying and pretending that its just some opinion I made up and not an accredited study.


second obviously you ignored the interviews with datoga women where they ALL STATE as a majority that bashings from husbands in their culture is normal to happen and they state "larger men are scary" because of this abuse. go look it up there is widespread knowledge in peer reviewed form about the bashings in this culture. that is why women "are attracted to shorter men" because they don't want the bashings to hurt as much. and the datoga women state this is the reason in actual interviews.

personally RR I trust the opinion of datoga women on why they don't like taller men over your rubbish opinion any day. yes you fool the women were directly asked why they don't like taller men in these interviews. they don't like to be bashed by stronger men.


stop wasting my time you delusional man. you clearly don't read anything. you only see what you want to see.

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Posted on Nov 30, 2014, 11:32 pm
#40

Quote from: ForcedPuberty on November 30, 2014, 09:25:08 PMyour mental in the head.


I posted the reference to the medical journals of sociology and the journal is fully referenced to other medical journals.

its funny how you just selectively see things. but sure keep lying and pretending that its just some opinion I made up and not an accredited study.


second obviously you ignored the interviews with datoga women where they ALL STATE as a majority that bashings from husbands in their culture is normal to happen and they state "larger men are scary" because of this abuse. go look it up there is widespread knowledge in peer reviewed form about the bashings in this culture. that is why women "are attracted to shorter men" because they don't want the bashings to hurt as much. and the datoga women state this is the reason in actual interviews.

personally RR I trust the opinion of datoga women on why they don't like taller men over your rubbish opinion any day. yes you fool the women were directly asked why they don't like taller men in these interviews. they don't like to be bashed by stronger men.


stop wasting my time you delusional man. you clearly don't read anything. you only see what you want to see.


Is this some sort of joke? What link have you supposedly posted?

I'm pretty sure you are just a tremendous troll. Lol

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