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Posted on May 24, 2024, 10:52 am
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https://ibb.co/yVnG28S

He looks very bad due to short torso, narrow frame and short arms. Especially short arms are the most obvious disproportion when looking on him. That guy did 6 cm on his tibia without nails using some obscure device in the past and got severe bow legs. Basically, he destroyed his lower legs by not going with fully circular frames with hexapod.

He was 163 cm and after 6 cm tibia, became 169 cm. Then, years later, decided to lengthen his femurs with LON in Turkey for 9 cm. Now, he stands at 178 cm but looks very odd. His torso is very short after 15 cm LL and his arms are t-rex level and unacceptable.

Now, some of you will keep saying that it's better being 178 cm with freakishly short torso and arms rather than 163 cm and normal, but I disagree with that notion entirely. My take is that it's better being 173 cm with moderately short torso and arms rather than 163 cm and normal or 178 cm with freakishly short torso and arms. He should have done 5 cm on his tibia and 5 cm on his femur. 9 cm on femur is insane for 163 cm guy with very small frame and arms.

What I find funny is that he has shorter arms than Sedat and they said that the guy has 170 cm wingspan while Sedat says he has 164 cm wingspan. It's impossible that the guy has a 170 cm wingspan while I at 165-167 cm pre-LL height have 166-167 cm wingspan and my arms don't look that short relative to my big torso. They clearly lie about his wingspan as it looks shorter than that of Sedat's who claims 164 cm wingspan and even his claim is pushing it considering how short his arms look.

This guy most definitely needs humerus lengthening in order to look acceptable. Even when he sits and his legs are not visible, when he moves his arms while talking, it's obvious that he has very short arms that are aesthetically unpleasing.

I bet his wingspan is even lower than his starting height of 163 cm. Maybe even less than 160 cm. That's why he looks really bad after double LL of more than 4 inches. The black rapper guy who lengthened 15 cm and went from 165 cm to 180 cm doesn't look that bad because he clearly has normal arms and they said that his wingspan is 175 cm which is believable in his case.

Even though my arms are not short for my height and my wingspan matches my height, I have a big and wide torso that can accommodate more than 4 inches of LL but my arms will look short and I don't want to look like him post double LL. That's why I'm contemplating starting with humerus as it's easy to lengthen and I won't be immobile. 5 cm will make a huge difference and my starting proportions for double LL will be ideal to reach 178 cm.

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Posted on May 25, 2024, 12:26 am
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Nobody in real life cares about your arm proportions and it only really comes to mind if you really look into it. A majority of time it's just going to be " wow that guy is tall " not " wow that guy is tall with some weird leg to arm ratio compare to the overall structure of his body".
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Posted on May 25, 2024, 7:53 am
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i would only grow taller than 10 cm of my wingspan. i would be 10 cm but after adding 3cm shoes i would look like him haha. so im 170cm wingspan. my goal is to get 7.2 cm i would be about 172+7.2 would be 179.2 mid day height. would be ok i guess would be worried about my arms still anti social haha but look tall like a mofo.
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Posted on May 25, 2024, 11:14 am
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That's why you have to calculate everything before determining how much to lengthen in total. I'd rather be 5'8 with great leg-to-body and acceptable arm-to-body ratios rather than 5'11 with shietty leg-to-body and terrible arm-to-body ratios.
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Posted on May 30, 2024, 3:06 pm
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No one cares about proportions unless they’re actually terrible. I have to friends that are 6ft and 6’2, and they just have really long legs. In fact, I’m 5’6 and have the same sitting height as my friend who is 5’11. You’re just overanalyzing the picture. I didn’t find anything oddbwith it.
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Posted on May 30, 2024, 4:16 pm
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Now, I agree that it's better to be at least average height and have short arms rather than be short with proportional arms. But, I'm against becoming relatively tall and sacrificing good proportions for it. So, guys above 5'8 who do massive amounts of LL and end up with very short torso and arms are not rational IMO. But, for guys less than 5'8 it's justifiable for them to sacrifice normal proportions in order to become at least 5'9 after double LL.

But, the guy I posted had very short arms even for his starting height of 163 cm. After tibia LL of 6 cm he still looked acceptable as you can see but after 9 cm femur, he looks bad. He should have stopped at 175 (6 cm instead of 9 cm on femur). So, 12 cm from double LL was his hard limit due to his low starting height and short arms.

There's a certain limit of how much you can lengthen your legs relative to your torso and arms. It's all about ratios express in percentages. For example, leg-to-trunk ratio should not exceed a certain limit, the same goes for arm-to-body ratio. Everyone has their limits for double LL and those limits are determined by their starting height and proportions. Those who are short legged with big torso can get away with more lengthening but are limited by their arm length. That guy exceeded both ratios (leg to trunk and arm to body).

IMO, with double LL, you have to lengthen as much as your current arm length allows it in order to avoid humerus lengthening. AL after 2 LL is mentally and physically exhausting and I might go crazy with 3 LL surgeries (one of them being AL). That's why I'm studying my proportions in details in order to set hard limits for each leg segment and not exceed those limits in order to look acceptable. 13-14 cm (6.5 cm on tibia and 8 cm on femur) is max IMO and even that is pushing it but unless one has very short arms even for his starting height (like that guy had) it can be done without AL.
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Posted on May 30, 2024, 4:51 pm
#7
I'm not really seeing anything that jumps out and is terribly obvious...and I'm really staring at it.  Is there a video of him?  If so, can you link it here?  Maybe if we saw him walking, in motion, or moving his arms around it would be noticeable.  But I can't really see anything bad about this photo.
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Posted on May 30, 2024, 5:13 pm
#8
I think he looks perfectly normal.
No one in real life stares at a persons figure in this scrutinized way.
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Posted on May 30, 2024, 5:42 pm
#9
There's a video of him posted on LLT Insta and YT pages. His arms do look quite short in motion, even when he sits and his legs are not visible. I think that he had short arms relative to his torso and that's why he looks like that, IDK.
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Posted on May 30, 2024, 8:47 pm
#10
He looks great! He went from a midget and now he looks exactly like Daredevil. To many guys here are autistically obsessed with proportions. He looks normal.
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