TIBIA LENGTHENING IN MOSCOW WITH DR BAGIROV

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There is no way I recommend you lengthen 10 cm on your tibias. .. I've done 6.7 cm now, and it's a lot. .. 10 is too much. . You will likely recover one day, but not 100% and the recovery process will be extremely long....  trust me, this is very hard. ... Your life will not be happy while you lengthen... Think about max 6-8 cm. And That Is Pushing it... And for that length, do latn or lon... You will not want to be on frames for 2 years

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Quote from: crimsontide on July 01, 2014, 04:00:14 PMNot in Russia. ... No follow up. .. I'm mad I stopped walking a week. .. I'm making plans to go see Dr parihar to remove frames in  next 2 weeks

crimsontide, how long have you been in frames now? You will be off frames in just 2 weeks' time? That's really fast. U're pretty tall already, like 180+ 

You have lengthened 6.7 cm and that is a lot!

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If I get frames removed it's because I'll have done latn.  If I don't do latn , who knows how long I'll be in the frames

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Been reading your diary and  in the last few pages the mood seems to have changed, you wanting to get latn half way through this have anything to do with your fiance leaving? YOu never told us why she left  Sorry for bringing it up but why did she leave you? Sorry if I seem nosy, its one of the few things I think about pre LL. Did you do something to piss her off to leave or is it because of the frames, lengthening, rehab, etc? If Im out of line by asking this, just let me know.

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no problem asking

 me wanting to get the frames off and going to see dr parihar, and possibly get the gastro release surgery has nothing to do with fiancee, and everything to do with the hassle of wearing frames, and the ballerina,etc..

our issues  have more to do with her than the frames

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also, ill be very clear about this

'i want to be sure all is ok.... the only way i feel comfortable with a full recovery is if i get checked now,and get frames off now, so id only have to wait for bone consolidation....  if i keep frames on,  id have to basically pray that all turns out ok and go multiple times to russia


i haven't had 1 followup yet with my russian dr..... i want to get checked and get frames off...  I've pretty much made my mind up.... it shouldn't even cost a lot, as parihar won't be putting frames on me,etc... simply taking them off and inserting I'm nail in... petty basic


i have pretty much made my mind up..... i wish everyone in russia well, but i need to make sure I'm fine... i don't feel comfortable with frames on my leg for possibly over a year, thousands of miles away from  my dr

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Quote from: crimsontide on July 02, 2014, 05:02:51 PMalso, ill be very clear about this

'i want to be sure all is ok.... the only way i feel comfortable with a full recovery is if i get checked now,and get frames off now, so id only have to wait for bone consolidation....  if i keep frames on,  id have to basically pray that all turns out ok and go multiple times to russia


i haven't had 1 followup yet with my russian dr..... i want to get checked and get frames off...  I've pretty much made my mind up.... it shouldn't even cost a lot, as parihar won't be putting frames on me,etc... simply taking them off and inserting I'm nail in... petty basic


i have pretty much made my mind up..... i wish everyone in russia well, but i need to make sure I'm fine... i don't feel comfortable with frames on my leg for possibly over a year, thousands of miles away from  my dr

I hope you realize that you are taking a bigger risk and making it less likely to reach full recovery by getting the internal nails, compared to just doing it the external way. You are supposed to return to Moscow for a check up when you are done lengthening, they control everything there and makes sure you are fine. I did that. After that check up the risks and complications are pretty much over, just a long waiting time.

As for the price, maybe he will make a discount but who knows, he might take full price except for the accommodation costs which you wont need.

But yeah you should go for the internals, but dont try to deny the fact that there will be some kind of tradeoff in recovery, it might not be enough to notice in your case though.

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i don't believe for one second that getting the nail means less chance of recovery... theres a chance for slight knee pain, but to say the frames don't have complications after one stops lengthening is false


 the frames keep the foot and ankle  pointed down,etc... along with the serious risks you face if you wear frames for say over 12 months... these are serious risks, not to mention little things, such as showering, etc

ill be walking faster without aids if i get the frames off.... the frames cause too many issues in many people... they've even made the areas around the  sites extremely extremely dry... and its because of the frames

as far as them controlling everything, lets put everything out there.....   

1-    bagirov does not even do the surgery by himself, and people need to know this.... if people go to russia, its fine, but they need to know  he will be doing 1 leg, and his assistant will be doing  surgery on the other leg

2-we both know people  who had surgery with him... you expect to have frames off in a few months, you might... but we both know a person who's had frames on 11 months and lengthened 4.5 cm.. this person also  had complications when they did the "adjustment"

i also know of a few others, such as a girl that lengthened there,  had frames removed, then her leg subsequently broke... she's had frames on about 2 years

i also know  something else that i won't say here,only because i was told  it in confidence... but it isn't good


bagirov option is ok i think,  but there are many drawbacks to the way he runs things....   at this point, id rather py an  extra 3 or 4 just to get the nail put in... for various reasons

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I can understand what you're going through in those frames, and wanting to get them off.  It's impossible to live a normal life in them.  The 4 and 1/2 months I spent in those things seemed interminable.  I can only imagine how miserable I would've been if my frame removal had been the halfway point of my LL.

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Hi Crisomtide,
I think in your case you should to do LATN, because you will have to stay with the frames a lo of time. For 6,7 cm you will have to stay with that frames more than 1 year.
Cheers, paco