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Posted on Jul 4, 2014, 7:27 pm
#181

Quote from: old forum please on July 04, 2014, 06:29:53 PMgood idea, but won't the foot holder impede muscular growth that is necessary for self-correction of this physiological condition?

Pretty sure it doesnt impede anything since doctors recommend using a footholder to prevent ballerina.

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Posted on Jul 4, 2014, 11:47 pm
#182

Quote from: Wannabegiant on July 04, 2014, 07:27:24 PMPretty sure it doesnt impede anything since doctors recommend using a footholder to prevent ballerina.

I am somewhat medically knowledgeable, As wannabegiant says, it's recommended, how can you grow muscle if you cant even put your full foot to the floor to even come close to walking normally? Walking on your toes is only going to mainly stretch your Achilles tendon rather than helping the lower leg muscles to adapt, if crimson hasn't used a foot holder it seem like they are pretty much guaranteed to have ballerina past approx 5cm  which would only make the road to recovery harder

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Posted on Jul 7, 2014, 4:16 pm
#183

Hello crimsomtide,

I appreciate you putting your diary up for peolle like me to read and for taking that plunge and doing LL. I am undecided between Dr Barinov in volograd and Dr Bagirov.

I initially thought, what the hell Bagirov is cheaper so i should focus on him. However this is not the first time I have heard that he doesn't do much for you post op.

From your experience, would you still recommend him? I know after the surgery youre pretty vulnerable but I dont mind if hes strict or cold and uncomforting as long as the workout regiment and instructions are clear and useful and if theres an emergency it is handled.

You also stated that he does one leg while an assistant does the other. Maybe this is a dumb question, but if he is right there overseeing the surgery is it really that big of a deal?

About that thing that you wont mention because you were told in confidence. I appreciate your privacy and you have done more than enough by providing insight on your experience. But i have to ask if whatever that situatiin is, can you consider it when you make the recommendation if it applies.

This forum already states that the price of surgery is 6000 to 6500 euros and that an apt costs between 200 to 300 eur per month or 1000 a month to stay at the facility. In your diary it says you went home after the surger but would you happen to have an idea if the 200 to 300 eur is accurate because I checked apt listings and they seem more expensive than that.

If you have any idea what monthly expenses are can you list them. (Cost of food per day, internet access, etc.)

Thank you

I just want to let you know I will also ask tbe forum user wannabegiant these questions.

Thanks again

Quote from: crimsontide on July 02, 2014, 06:15:18 PMi don't believe for one second that getting the nail means less chance of recovery... theres a chance for slight knee pain, but to say the frames don't have complications after one stops lengthening is false


 the frames keep the foot and ankle  pointed down,etc... along with the serious risks you face if you wear frames for say over 12 months... these are serious risks, not to mention little things, such as showering, etc

ill be walking faster without aids if i get the frames off.... the frames cause too many issues in many people... they've even made the areas around the  sites extremely extremely dry... and its because of the frames

as far as them controlling everything, lets put everything out there.....   

1-    bagirov does not even do the surgery by himself, and people need to know this.... if people go to russia, its fine, but they need to know  he will be doing 1 leg, and his assistant will be doing  surgery on the other leg

2-we both know people  who had surgery with him... you expect to have frames off in a few months, you might... but we both know a person who's had frames on 11 months and lengthened 4.5 cm.. this person also  had complications when they did the "adjustment"

i also know of a few others, such as a girl that lengthened there,  had frames removed, then her leg subsequently broke... she's had frames on about 2 years

i also know  something else that i won't say here,only because i was told  it in confidence... but it isn't good


bagirov option is ok i think,  but there are many drawbacks to the way he runs things....   at this point, id rather py an  extra 3 or 4 just to get the nail put in... for various reasons

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Posted on Jul 7, 2014, 6:31 pm
#184

Hey tx,etc

Regarding foot holder, i tried it, but couldn't keep it on 24 hours... now i don't wear one

i think I'm going to, at the very least get the gastric release so i can put heels on ground now... walking on my tiptoes   makes me feel very nervous.. I'm just not stable. i realize my heel would eventually touch the ground, but at this point, I'm not even trying to walk, as i  feel odd on my toes

I'm just about done lengthening

Regarding prices,  no way you're going to get an apt in moscow for 300 euro... the facility charges you by the day, and its over 80 euro a day, so were talking about 2500 euro a month if you wanna just stay there, though they won't recommend it

to me,  all the drs are similar in terms of the surgery.  but there are big differences in post op treatment.. I would probably recommend him  just because of his price, but i think my first choice would be beijing if i were going to recommend external

Pretty much everyone that gets this surgery will be ok eventually, but good post op care can make it much more pleasant..

i think I'm  lengthening around 8 cm.... i wanted to get 3.5 inches, but i think its too much, 3 inches is good enough...

i have normal knee movement, some pin site pain when bending knees, and ballerina... my  achilles is very sore but other than that,  pretty normal... its just very tedious not being able to walk

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Posted on Jul 8, 2014, 5:38 pm
#185

as of yesterday,I'm done lengthening.... i won't lengthen anymore


everything seems ok, except i have bad ballerina in both feet...  i could walk fine otherwise, if i didn't have this ballerina... its  such that i don't walk right, except very very little occasionally

its just not comfortable walking on my toes.... it puts too much pressure on my news if I'm not perfectly balanced.... i just don't feel comfortable


i think the only way ill be ab;e to walk a lot during consolidation is if i get  a release..... I'm definitely going to have to get it.. iota only an outpatient surgery, and might weaken calf a bit, but i have no choice... i need to be able to put heels  straight on the floor... its awful having it in both feet

that dr that said without a release, anything over 5 cm will give you serious ballerina,  is correct

it really sucks, only thing thats wrong too... i can bend knees,etc... i can't raise my leg up straight now, but every things okay....  ballerina is my only issue but its a bg one for me...

also aching now, hopefully will go away in a few days now that I'm done lengthening

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Posted on Jul 8, 2014, 5:58 pm
#186

i just wanted to reply to the comment on consolidating then going back to russia...

i don't think that would be very safe at all.... to not see a dr the entire time, and wait until consolidation...    if i have any complications now,  since i just stopped lengthening, it can be fixed now... if i wait 5 months lets say, who knows, might be a huge issue... thats why i would not choose that route

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Posted on Jul 8, 2014, 6:47 pm
#187

Hi crisomtide,
Then, you are alone in your aparment. You say that you live in Morocco.
 what is your routine one day? How much do you lengthening every day?
Than you, i will have my surgery with doctor salameh in september, and i want to prepare my day postoperatory

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Posted on Jul 8, 2014, 6:56 pm
#188

don't have a routine now to be honest.. planning on fixing ballerina then walking during consolidation


 didn't lengthen the same amount every day, but avg less than 1 mm a day, maybe .80 mm

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Posted on Jul 8, 2014, 7:14 pm
#189

Than you for your answer and your involvement in the forum.
But you are alone or you have a caretaker or anybody that they help you.
your frames aren't so big, i think they are similar to salameh devices. you wear them under the trousers in the Street.

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Posted on Jul 8, 2014, 11:28 pm
#190

Hello , what's a release? also don't you go out ? I think you should move to Casablanca there's many thing tp see Rabat is so boring

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