Quote from: Victims of the Wannabetaller2 on December 25, 2022, 11:53:06 AMHi I’m one of the victims of limb lengthening surgery in Wannabetaller in Turkey, they do not have professional medical knowledge and do not pay enough attention to bone infection including their doctors Yuksel and yunus, but they are engaged in medical consulting work, they are not qualified to do this work! Don't be deceived by their overwhelming advertisements and superficial services. If there is an accident in their operation, they will only shirk the responsibility to the patient themselves. They don't know how to deal with osteomyelitis and call it a complication, but in surgery Did not tell any risks and how to prevent them, how to deal with them! Unscrupulous agencies just because they are not professional and do not intend to be responsible! They advertised that they provided renting services for patients, but they used the excuse that I suffered from osteomyelitis when I left their hotel after removing the stents as an excuse to shirk responsibility! My leg wasn't actually a trauma infection, it was a swollen infection starting to develop inside the nail! X-rays can't see the problem in the early stage! In addition, 2 patients who had surgery at a similar time to mine continued to live in Wannabetaller's hotel for 3 months after removing the stents, and after returning home, they also developed osteomyelitis symptoms of swelling at the broken bone! Because their domestic doctors performed debridement surgery for them in the fastest time, and they recovered. I was more unfortunate than them. I didn’t get the fastest debridement surgery because I was still in Turkey, and there were not enough professionals around me at that time. People, although I told Wannabetaller early on that my leg was swollen and had a fever and even pus, they didn't do anything! I originally planned to return to my country when I recovered to be able to walk, and I thought that if I had problems with my legs in Turkey, I could find an intermediary and a doctor! Unfortunately, it turns out how unprofessional and irresponsible Wannabetaller is, which has caused me to be treated for chronic osteomyelitis for 6 months now! I will continue to wear the external fixator for half a year! Because now I have removed my nails and put on an external fixator. I have been hospitalized for 28 days and have not been discharged. I am taking antibiotics every day. Chronic osteomyelitis will be difficult to cure. It may be a disease that will accompany me all my life! All this is caused by Wannabetaller's unprofessional and irresponsible! On July 8, 2022 I told the Wannabetaller staff that my broken bone in my leg suddenly swelled up and they didn't know what to do! I waited until 15 days after the pus was drained and was diagnosed with osteomyelitis by their doctor Yunus. They still lied to me that it was not serious and no debridement surgery was needed. Their wrong and ignorant decision made me miss the best and most important surgery to completely remove bacteria Over time, the bacteria formed a biofilm on the nails and could not be killed by antibiotics, so my wounds healed very slowly, and on October 24, redness, swelling and suppuration appeared on the knees of my legs, and chronic osteomyelitis recurred! All the orthopedic surgeons I interviewed suggested that the nail must be removed for treatment, and because the bacteria spread to the entire medullary cavity, the treatment was difficult and the cycle was very long. It has been 6 months since the infection occurred in July 2022 to now on December 25th, and I am still treating this chronic osteomyelitis! Because of the irresponsibility of the Wannabetaller agency and the unprofessionalism of their doctors, the delay in treatment and improper treatment finally caused me to suffer from chronic osteomyelitis. After that, they still shamelessly shirk responsibility and say that I caused chronic osteomyelitis! These medical illiterates are really rascals! Remember that Wannabetaller and the doctors they work with have poor medical skills and poor ethics. If there is an accident, they will only pass the responsibility to the patient and not give them a complete cure or compensation for the treatment fee! They don't give me surgery contracts, medical records, and invoices. They not only want to evade taxes, but also want to evade the responsibility of compensating the victims! Do not believe their overwhelming false advertising! Everything they advertise is hypocritical and deceptive for the sake of patients!
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Your post is much appreciated, but frankly, it is difficult to read.
It would be helpful if you could organize the events that occurred in chronological order.
Also, it would be great if we could know the date each photo was taken.
Osteomyelitis occurred in July 2022, when did you have your first surgery before that?
Also, when did you have your nail removal surgery?
Turkish Wannabetaller team made me suffer from chronic osteomyelitis
Quote from: Victims of the Wannabetaller2 on December 29, 2022, 01:29:54 PMWannabetaller's nurse sometimes changed bandages every 2 days, when she was busy she changed bandages every 5 days or every week
"when she was busy she changed bandages every 5 days or every week" what was her name? I's been almost 1.5 months for me staying at wannabetaller's rehab and I have never seen a single infection case. Also everyone's bandages are changed every 2 days. I don't want to call you a liar but saying that dressings were changed once a week sound straight a lie.
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Quote from: QuarkSoup on December 29, 2022, 07:55:50 PM"when she was busy she changed bandages every 5 days or every week" what was her name? I's been almost 1.5 months for me staying at wannabetaller's rehab and I have never seen a single infection case. Also everyone's bandages are changed every 2 days. I don't want to call you a liar but saying that dressings were changed once a week sound straight a lie.
You may not believe it, but that is the fact of my experience! But I don't think my osteomyelitis has anything to do with how often the nurse changes the gauze! Because my wound was not infected before the swollen osteomyelitis happened. Moreover, I saw other doctors in China perform corrective surgery. They did not wrap gauze after the wound healed, and no patient was infected. The doctor said that even if it is an external fixator, even if it is a traumatic infection, it is not easy to infect the bone marrow.
Quote from: Charizard on December 29, 2022, 03:06:17 PMIt looks like he did surgery for cheap prices to chinese patients like you to gain experience. Simply we can say he used you as guinea pig. So unfortunate.. 
Will you going to sue Dr Yuksel? Or WannaBeTaller?
Our operation fee and accommodation fee are paid to wannabetaller, because many things happened, I admit that the boss of wannabetaller is not a person of high morals. But yuksel is a doctor, no matter how much money he makes, I think he should have professional ethics, it is impossible to make fun of a patient's leg! I went to see Yuksel before returning home, and although he didn't think it was necessary for me to remove the nails, his attitude was much better.
I want to sue Wannabetaller team, I have not been cured until now.Another patient who was repaired 4 times by Wannabetaller doctor Yuksel, her inner thigh surgery, she said she almost died on the operating table, and even though she went through 4 She was very dissatisfied with Wannabetaller's attitude towards her, and she also wanted to sue Wannabetaller, but Wannabetaller did not give us the operation contract and receipt, and we did not have enough evidence. Turkish law does not recognize Chinese WeChat chat records. I’m not sure if it can be successful.In fact, I am not the only victim of Wannabetaller, but others chose to remain silent.Originally, if my leg was cured, I didn't want to say anything. As a doctor, whether the operation is cheap or not should not be the reason to treat the patient as a guinea pig!
Quote from: maison on December 29, 2022, 03:51:57 PMYour post is much appreciated, but frankly, it is difficult to read.
It would be helpful if you could organize the events that occurred in chronological order.
Also, it would be great if we could know the date each photo was taken.
Osteomyelitis occurred in July 2022, when did you have your first surgery before that?
Also, when did you have your nail removal surgery?
Sorry, it's my first time using this software. Because I have been hospitalized and I don’t have a computer, I asked someone who are also unfamiliar with this software to post the pictures and edited text for me. If I can modify it when I go home after I leave the hospital, I will write the date or explanation after each picture, but this post does not seem to allow modification of the content, so I can only add new content by replying.
My first operation was on January 1, 2022, and the stent was removed on April 5. On the night of July 7, I suddenly felt cold and had a fever and my legs had no strength. When I woke up on July 8, I found that my leg was broken. The bone was bulging, I contacted Wannabetaller immediately, they asked me to contact Yuksel myself, Yuksel said he was on vacation and asked me to wait for him for 5 days to come back to see him, on July 10 the swelling burst and a lot of pus came out... …July 11 I went to Yuksel’s emergency department but got no useful treatment, July 14wannabetaller asked me to see yunus, July 20yunus told me the diagnosis was osteomyelitis, told me that I could use gentamicin for 6 weeks, I Intravenous infusion was chosen for faster infection control. However, because Yunus did not recommend debridement surgery, the pus bacteria in my wound were not completely killed by antibiotics. On September 1, I visited Yunus again, and he diagnosed chronic osteomyelitis. I asked Wannabetaller to replace me with a more experienced osteomyelitis doctor and asked for debridement, Wannabetaller refused. So I chose to return home for treatment. I visited Yuksel before returning home and he said my tests showed nothing wrong with my legs and no bacteria. Before going to visit Yuksel, he said that if it is necessary to remove the nails, he will remove them for me and clean the wound as long as I pay for the surgery, but in the end he said that there is no problem with my test and there is no need to remove the nails. So I went back to my country, but on the way back to my country, my knees started to be red, swollen and painful... I took antibiotics for a month, and after 3 days of stopping the antibiotics, the redness turned into pustules that were about to explode! On oct 24th my knees and lower lock nails started to be red, swollen and painful, i have been on antibiotics and have been to several doctors in different hospitals and they all think i need to have my nails removed because i still have bacteria in my legs and they Let my osteomyelitis relapse. I was hospitalized on the night of 11/28, had nails removed, external fixator was put on 11/29, and antibiotics were dripped through the opening in the knee to flush the bone, antibiotics were poured through the ankle, IV vancomycin, rinsed After 3 weeks, the doctor first removed the tube in the knee, and then removed the tube in the ankle a few days later. Now my knee wound is so painful that I can't walk.
The doctor and the intermediary team did not pay much attention to the infection. From the beginning of the slight infection and inflammation, they felt that it was not a problem. The doctor did not want to be responsible, thinking that the intermediary team was responsible for the daily changing of gauze and disinfection. The intermediary team felt that it was the doctor’s job to deal with the infection and inflammation. Work. They pushed each other and were unwilling to deal with it, which eventually delayed the treatment, resulting in severe osteomyelitis, requiring amputation of necrotic bones and re-fixation of the external fixator.
The doctor and the business team only cooperate according to the order, and the doctor will stop asking the patient after the operation. The business team employs ordinary nurses to change gauze and take medicine for patients. But these nurses were lazy and changed the gauze of the patient once a week at most, leading to serious infections.
Because the business team receives the order, and then hires a doctor to perform the operation. After the operation is completed, the business team arranges the accommodation during the extended period, so that the business team can earn the accommodation fee. Since the accommodation is arranged by the business team, the nursing staff is also the business team. Employed, and these nurses basically know nothing about medical services.
The doctor only charged the money for the operation, he is not responsible for everything after the operation, the business team is responsible
In order to save money, the business team hires people with no medical care experience to take care of patients, and they are lazy, changing gauze only once every 5 days or a week, and giving patients anti-inflammatory drugs every 5 days.
The patient himself was inexperienced, completely unaware that there was a problem, and just waited, doing nothing, until a severe infection developed, leading to periostitis. In fact, if the patient realizes that the gauze and anti-inflammatory drugs should be changed every 2 days, he can change the gauze and take the medicine on time at home.
So, don't rely on the business team, don't trust any service they can give you, you are in charge of your legs and no one will care about your legs. If nursing staff is needed, let doctors hire nursing staff as much as possible, and let doctors earn this money, not business teams. In this way, the doctor is in charge, otherwise, the doctor will not be responsible for your infection during the extended period. If you feel that you live at home and change the gauze, dressing, and medication by yourself, then you should contact the doctor more and communicate with other patients, which is more useful than relying on the business team.
Quote from: Neo2023 on December 31, 2022, 10:16:32 PMThe doctor and the intermediary team did not pay much attention to the infection. From the beginning of the slight infection and inflammation, they felt that it was not a problem. The doctor did not want to be responsible, thinking that the intermediary team was responsible for the daily changing of gauze and disinfection. The intermediary team felt that it was the doctor’s job to deal with the infection and inflammation. Work. They pushed each other and were unwilling to deal with it, which eventually delayed the treatment, resulting in severe osteomyelitis, requiring amputation of necrotic bones and re-fixation of the external fixator.
The doctor and the business team only cooperate according to the order, and the doctor will stop asking the patient after the operation. The business team employs ordinary nurses to change gauze and take medicine for patients. But these nurses were lazy and changed the gauze of the patient once a week at most, leading to serious infections.
Because the business team receives the order, and then hires a doctor to perform the operation. After the operation is completed, the business team arranges the accommodation during the extended period, so that the business team can earn the accommodation fee. Since the accommodation is arranged by the business team, the nursing staff is also the business team. Employed, and these nurses basically know nothing about medical services.
The doctor only charged the money for the operation, he is not responsible for everything after the operation, the business team is responsible
In order to save money, the business team hires people with no medical care experience to take care of patients, and they are lazy, changing gauze only once every 5 days or a week, and giving patients anti-inflammatory drugs every 5 days.
The patient himself was inexperienced, completely unaware that there was a problem, and just waited, doing nothing, until a severe infection developed, leading to periostitis. In fact, if the patient realizes that the gauze and anti-inflammatory drugs should be changed every 2 days, he can change the gauze and take the medicine on time at home.
So, don't rely on the business team, don't trust any service they can give you, you are in charge of your legs and no one will care about your legs. If nursing staff is needed, let doctors hire nursing staff as much as possible, and let doctors earn this money, not business teams. In this way, the doctor is in charge, otherwise, the doctor will not be responsible for your infection during the extended period. If you feel that you live at home and change the gauze, dressing, and medication by yourself, then you should contact the doctor more and communicate with other patients, which is more useful than relying on the business team.
"But these nurses were lazy and changed the gauze of the patient once a week at most, leading to serious infections" imagine believing this nonsense. People can throw random pictures and make up stories. She/he couldnt even tell us the nurse's name or any employees names.
Yesterday I went to PT room to strech my hip flexors . All the stretchers were full except the stretcher where the dressing was done. I lay down on that stretcher and dangled my feet then the nurse came and asked me if I want my bandages to be changed eventhough my dressing was changed the day before yesterday. So I don't buy the "the bandages were changed once a week at most" fairy tale. Even my sheets are changed every morning...
When you lie about one thing you completely lose your ground all together.
Quote from: QuarkSoup on January 01, 2023, 07:33:16 AM"But these nurses were lazy and changed the gauze of the patient once a week at most, leading to serious infections" imagine believing this nonsense. People can throw random pictures and make up stories. She/he couldnt even tell us the nurse's name or any employees names.
Yesterday I went to PT room to strech my hip flexors . All the stretchers were full except the stretcher where the dressing was done. I lay down on that stretcher and dangled my feet then the nurse came and asked me if I want my bandages to be changed eventhough my dressing was changed the day before yesterday. So I don't buy the "the bandages were changed once a week at most" fairy tale. Even my sheets are changed every morning...
When you lie about one thing you completely lose your ground all together.
Is it possible the procedures regarding bandage changes were different during the time they were there?
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