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Posted on May 26, 2019, 11:02 am
#1201

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to share a random observation since I've noticed it happening twice now.

A successful investment banker friend of mine just had his first baby.  My friend's about 5'7 and in press deal announcements, he is always the shortest man shaking hands with giants.  His wife just gave birth to a baby boy and of course, he is a super proud dad.  However, how he describes his son to me is particularly interesting of note.  He says that his son of 10 months old already measures in the top 1% percentile of baby length and hence, would be very tall when he grows up. 

I thought the comment is interesting BECAUSE the emphasis here is how long and potentially how tall his son will become, which obviously is a source of pride for him.  The thing is, height as we all know well, is NOT something we can control naturally nor even take credit for.  And yet, as parents, the seed gets sowed early on in our baby heads... our parents/family unknowingly put a lot of pressure on us to be smart, good looking or tall.  Many of you will argue that our parents want only the best for us and yet, by assigning undue credit or criticism, to qualities of which we have very little control like looks and height, they have inadvertently established a subconscious messaging that being tall is an achievement in itself.  And as children, we will do anything to seek the approval and acknowledgement of our elders.  And this strive for acceptance might extend throughout our lifetime.

I don't even need to tell you the story of how my grandmother describes her shorter grandchildren.  She thinks they must be incredibly naughty/disobedient not to eat and sleep sufficiently to grow up as tall as her other taller grandchildren.  And of course, she gratuitiously extends the blame to her daughter-in-law for not being an exemplary mother or for not feeding her children a rich enough diet.

SECOND STORY

In a similar vein, I have a gorgeous girlfriend who has a baby girl of 3 years old.  I find it particularly interesting as well the way she describes with immense satisfaction that her daughter is constantly mistaken for a 6-year old because she's the tallest in her nursery.  In addition, she adds with pride that her daughter is beating up 6-year olds in the park where she plays.

Anyway, I'm not here to judge.  I'm merely noting my observations that we may be the way we are because of how we have been pre-programmed since early childhood that height is a virtue to be admired.  Height lends invincibility.  Taller people get undue credit for the dumb luck of good genes.

Many of us here in the forum beat ourselves up wondering if we or our parents could have done something more to change our fates when we were growing like taking HGH, more swimming, more ballet lessons, more skip rope, more jumping like the masais...  would any of these activities + more, change how we eventually turn out?  I don't know. 

But I know one thing...  it's been etched in my head since time immemorial that being short (relatively) means I'm inferior and somehow, my fault.  And unfortunately for me and many others, we spend the rest of our lives struggling with this chip on our shoulder trying to seek the approval for a virtue that ultimately was never in our control to begin with.

And it began with seemingly innocent comments like those my friends made.

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Posted on May 27, 2019, 6:05 pm
#1202

Quote from: Unicorn888 on May 26, 2019, 11:02:16 AMHi everyone,

Just wanted to share a random observation since I've noticed it happening twice now.

A successful investment banker friend of mine just had his first baby.  My friend's about 5'7 and in press deal announcements, he is always the shortest man shaking hands with giants.  His wife just gave birth to a baby boy and of course, he is a super proud dad.  However, how he describes his son to me is particularly interesting of note.  He says that his son of 10 months old already measures in the top 1% percentile of baby length and hence, would be very tall when he grows up. 

I thought the comment is interesting BECAUSE the emphasis here is how long and potentially how tall his son will become, which obviously is a source of pride for him.  The thing is, height as we all know well, is NOT something we can control naturally nor even take credit for.  And yet, as parents, the seed gets sowed early on in our baby heads... our parents/family unknowingly put a lot of pressure on us to be smart, good looking or tall.  Many of you will argue that our parents want only the best for us and yet, by assigning undue credit or criticism, to qualities of which we have very little control like looks and height, they have inadvertently established a subconscious messaging that being tall is an achievement in itself.  And as children, we will do anything to seek the approval and acknowledgement of our elders.  And this strive for acceptance might extend throughout our lifetime.


I totally agree and this is a pretty toxic psychological pattern that is so widespread in society. On one hand, I totally understand parents being glad their kids are not short or even above average height. Especially when the parents suffered with their height in their lives. On the other hand, it's just reinforcing the problem of heightism and shifting it away from your own family, your own kids...onto the kids who are shorter. And even in a perfectly healthy society, there WILL be those below average height. It's as human as breathing air.

Unicorn, any ideas how a regulated LL regime would look in practice? Who would do cosmetic LL, who would pay for it, and how would it be regulated, in an ideal society?

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Posted on Aug 25, 2019, 7:12 am
#1203

Any news, Unicorn?

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Posted on Sep 27, 2019, 3:02 am
#1204

I just read about another Guichet patient death:
https://jezebel.com/stories-about-my-brother-1835651181

Its really messed up..

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Posted on Sep 27, 2019, 6:33 am
#1205

In fairness though, pulmonary embolisms are a known potential complication from this surgery, as rare as they might be. It wasn't due to negligence on the part of Guichet - it seems like this guy just got really unlucky and died from it.

Sad, for sure :-/

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Posted on Sep 27, 2019, 6:56 am
#1206

many bad outcomes with guichet i will definetely  stay away from him!

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Posted on Sep 27, 2019, 9:23 am
#1207

Quote from: Purushrottam on September 27, 2019, 03:02:43 AMI just read about another Guichet patient death:
https://jezebel.com/stories-about-my-brother-1835651181

Its really messed up..


Didn’t read everything but the guy was based and red pilled as fk and just got really unlucky.

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Posted on Sep 28, 2019, 2:45 am
#1208

Quote from: JsElysianEagle on September 27, 2019, 06:33:48 AMIn fairness though, pulmonary embolisms are a known potential complication from this surgery, as rare as they might be. It wasn't due to negligence on the part of Guichet - it seems like this guy just got really unlucky and died from it.

Sad, for sure :-/


Nah no way its entirely Guichets fault, What ? Are you not reading why he did to unicorn? From the denial that there was a problem to begin with to the inserting of the wrong size nails we can conclude it was entirely guichets fault that this poor boy died. Other doctors take more precaution for embolism such as draining the bones internal fats prior to reaming and nail insertion to avoid them getting into the blood stream and to the lungs and heart. On top of that he should of been monitoring the patient for at least 4 days before releasing from hospital.
Entirely guichets fault.

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Posted on Sep 28, 2019, 3:04 am
#1209

Does anyone have any data on how frequently embolism occurs?
I know of one case with Paley, which he rectified immediately, and now two with Guichet.
I'm planning on going with Giotikas ,he seems competent; however, what sort of things should I enquire about to ensure risks are minimised?

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Posted on Sep 28, 2019, 11:36 am
#1210

Quote from: Heightmare on September 28, 2019, 03:04:51 AMDoes anyone have any data on how frequently embolism occurs?
I know of one case with Paley, which he rectified immediately, and now two with Guichet.
I'm planning on going with Giotikas ,he seems competent; however, what sort of things should I enquire about to ensure risks are minimised?


Nothing just being healhty, dunno the percentage but is really low and even if it happen it dosn’t always lead to death

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