UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016

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Check my reply in that thread.

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Quote from: Body Builder on October 03, 2017, 07:21:12 AMOnly a moron could prescribe aspirin during LL.
Guichet is really dangerous.

Quote from: Datum on October 03, 2017, 03:10:19 PMLOL. You're Guichet's troll. Monegal is more dangerous. He forgets prescribing heparine.

Hey Unicorn, even though I've already left Milan so long ago I still keep an eye for your journey. I hope you keep going to your NHS doctor and have the Precise nail so you can lengthen!

BodyBuilder is not a troll, he is only a guy with very strong opinions and a big attitude! Let's see where to begin (from what I researched before my LL journey) ... It is true that NSAIDS are said to cause a higher risk of delayed healing especially during the first weeks of fracture healing (inflammatory phase). Now, aspirin is also a member of this family but it behaves differently. Earlier, there were some epidemiological studies in which people taking aspirin had higher bone density. This, of course, does not imply causation. Now, in animal models (to experiment whether or not aspirin inhibit bone healing in humans is unethical) there have been conflicting results, while some have found a delayed healing, others have found faster and better callus. So again, to my knowledge, evidence tends to discourage most NSAIDS and aspirin's evidence is even more ambiguous (can't say for or against).

However, I honestly do not know why Dr. Guichet prescribes so much aspirin. He recommended 1 g of aspirin (that I remember) and this is a lot. Doses as low as 75 mg are enough for platelet inhibition, painkiller starts at 500 mg. Aspirin only behaves as an anti-inflammatory when it is used in doses higher than 1 gr.

Also, Dr. Guichet doesn't prescribe heparin!! He doesn't use any anticoagulants. I guess that early walking and compressive socks are enough for the majority of patients. He recommends Aspirin after the 2nd week (that I remember). From all the patients I've seen, I've seen 1 case but she had a distal vein trombosis so no risk of pulmonary embolism. I think Unicorn also had a blood clog after travelling back to London I don't remember.

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Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on October 05, 2017, 04:24:54 AMHey Unicorn, even though I've already left Milan so long ago I still keep an eye for your journey. I hope you keep going to your NHS doctor and have the Precise nail so you can lengthen!

BodyBuilder is not a troll, he is only a guy with very strong opinions and a big attitude! Let's see where to begin (from what I researched before my LL journey) ... It is true that NSAIDS are said to cause a higher risk of delayed healing especially during the first weeks of fracture healing (inflammatory phase). Now, aspirin is also a member of this family but it behaves differently. Earlier, there were some epidemiological studies in which people taking aspirin had higher bone density. This, of course, does not imply causation. Now, in animal models (to experiment whether or not aspirin inhibit bone healing in humans is unethical) there have been conflicting results, while some have found a delayed healing, others have found faster and better callus. So again, to my knowledge, evidence tends to discourage most NSAIDS and aspirin's evidence is even more ambiguous (can't say for or against).

However, I honestly do not know why Dr. Guichet prescribes so much aspirin. He recommended 1 g of aspirin (that I remember) and this is a lot. Doses as low as 75 mg are enough for platelet inhibition, painkiller starts at 500 mg. Aspirin only behaves as an anti-inflammatory when it is used in doses higher than 1 gr.

Also, Dr. Guichet doesn't prescribe heparin!! He doesn't use any anticoagulants. I guess that early walking and compressive socks are enough for the majority of patients. He recommends Aspirin after the 2nd week (that I remember). From all the patients I've seen, I've seen 1 case but she had a distal vein trombosis so no risk of pulmonary embolism. I think Unicorn also had a blood clog after travelling back to London I don't remember.

Hi LLSouthAmerica,

I wish we have a geek emoticon for you     All you said is correct, no anti-coagulants and a lot of aspirin are prescribed.  Anyway, it is what it is now.  I hope that I can be reamed further to change nails.  If not, a bone graft scares me on so many levels.

My DVT was actually detected post surgery in Milan, not post flight.  That said, everything is clear now.  Ironically enough, I finally got my ultrasound scan months later and all the docs agree that the unbelievably high amount of aspirin I was prescribed  probably helped 

So some good came of it!

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Unicorn, I've sent you a pm, for a consult

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Unicorn,
Lots of proteins, lots of cheese, eggs, meat, protein powder, sardines?
Are you sure that is good for you?
It is opposite of what I ate and what I would recommend others patients who want a speedy recovery to eat, as I am convinced the above promotes:
Cancer
Arthritis
heart attack
Stroke
multiple sclerosis
Autoimmune diseases
Diabetes
Obesity
kidney stones
Depression
osteoporosis and
non-union!
For that reason I strongly limit my meat intake, and eat every day around 2.5 liters of shakes with raw fruits and vegetables, lots of salad and combined with starchy food, but almost no animal based food and it seems that my recovery went well and I am feeling very healthy.

The way that animal protein leads to all of the above diseases is manifold and complex, but mainly:
Creating inflammation
Creating acidity once amino acids are broken down
Toxins and pesticides contained in meat
Several amino acids, especially methionine, being essential food for cancer cells
Carnitine and choline, broken down by gut bacteria to TMA, which is converted by liver to TMAO
Animal based food creating bad gut flora
Here is just one video that you might want to watch:

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你好，我27岁，164CM。我想做断骨增高。想咨询以下一些问题，麻烦你帮帮我。另外，我164CM想长到175CM就可以了。虽然不能保证，但是我有点担心你们的钉锤打下去，会不会把骨头打成裂纹，然后骨头就竖着的方向裂开，我很害怕。听说还有骨头连不起来的问题，很担心。我27岁了，你觉得还有可能长高的空间吗?
1、手术是在哪个国家或者城市做靠谱？
2、手术费用是多少呢？包括后期调理的补品一共需要多少钱？
3、真的有残疾或者死亡的风险吗？我担心的是骨头连不上的问题等，想咨询一下您，希望你能帮帮我。谢谢你！


Hello, I'm 27 years old, 164CM. I want to do it. Would like to ask some of the following questions, please help me. Besides, I think 164CM wants to grow to 175CM. Although there is no guarantee, but I'm a little worried about your hammer down, will put the bones into the crack, then the bones on the vertical direction of crack, I am afraid. I'm worried about the problems of bones. I'm 27 years old. Do you think there's still room to grow taller?
1, which country or city does the operation do?
2. What is the cost of the operation? How much do you need for the tonic after conditioning?
3, is there a risk of disability or death? I'm worried about the bone can not connect, and so on, I would like to ask you, I hope you can help me. Thank you very much!

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Quote from: helloworld on October 07, 2017, 05:03:17 AMUnicorn,
Lots of proteins, lots of cheese, eggs, meat, protein powder, sardines?
Are you sure that is good for you?
It is opposite of what I ate and what I would recommend others patients who want a speedy recovery to eat, as I am convinced the above promotes:
Cancer
Arthritis
heart attack
Stroke
multiple sclerosis
Autoimmune diseases
Diabetes
Obesity
kidney stones
Depression
osteoporosis and
non-union!
For that reason I strongly limit my meat intake, and eat every day around 2.5 liters of shakes with raw fruits and vegetables, lots of salad and combined with starchy food, but almost no animal based food and it seems that my recovery went well and I am feeling very healthy.

The way that animal protein leads to all of the above diseases is manifold and complex, but mainly:
Creating inflammation
Creating acidity once amino acids are broken down
Toxins and pesticides contained in meat
Several amino acids, especially methionine, being essential food for cancer cells
Carnitine and choline, broken down by gut bacteria to TMA, which is converted by liver to TMAO
Animal based food creating bad gut flora
Here is just one video that you might want to watch:


Well i was wondering when vegans will start to post anything.

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Quote from: helloworld on October 07, 2017, 05:03:17 AMUnicorn,
Lots of proteins, lots of cheese, eggs, meat, protein powder, sardines?
Are you sure that is good for you?
It is opposite of what I ate and what I would recommend others patients who want a speedy recovery to eat, as I am convinced the above promotes:
Cancer
Arthritis
heart attack
Stroke
multiple sclerosis
Autoimmune diseases
Diabetes
Obesity
kidney stones
Depression
osteoporosis and
non-union!
For that reason I strongly limit my meat intake, and eat every day around 2.5 liters of shakes with raw fruits and vegetables, lots of salad and combined with starchy food, but almost no animal based food and it seems that my recovery went well and I am feeling very healthy.

The way that animal protein leads to all of the above diseases is manifold and complex, but mainly:
Creating inflammation
Creating acidity once amino acids are broken down
Toxins and pesticides contained in meat
Several amino acids, especially methionine, being essential food for cancer cells
Carnitine and choline, broken down by gut bacteria to TMA, which is converted by liver to TMAO
Animal based food creating bad gut flora
Here is just one video that you might want to watch:


Hi Helloworld,

You're actually preaching to the converted, no worries   After reading the THE CHINA STUDY, I became very aware about alkaline foods, cancer, inflammation and became obsessed with anti-oxidants (tumeric, goji berries, blueberries, salmon, clove oil...etc), avoiding free radicals.

But I also know I really need a lot of calories and calcium/protein for bone growth, so I'm making an exception at the expense of later suffering from liver failure, kidney stones due to the high dosage of meds/calcium, and even cancer on day.

That said, that's why I balanced out my high protein diet with a lot of dark leafy greens, lemon water, dandelion root tea, liver heat pads, even got my bone marrow/meats sourced from free-range grass-fed non-hormone farms - I'm crazy I know but I fear all our foodstuff today, wrapped perfectly in plastic and beautifully ripened under fake sun glasshouses cause us more harm than good.  So I do try to alkanize as much as possible

But thank you for this because I'm a big fan of an alkaline based living, like yourself

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Quote from: runaway on October 07, 2017, 09:51:42 AM你好，我27岁，164CM。我想做断骨增高。想咨询以下一些问题，麻烦你帮帮我。另外，我164CM想长到175CM就可以了。虽然不能保证，但是我有点担心你们的钉锤打下去，会不会把骨头打成裂纹，然后骨头就竖着的方向裂开，我很害怕。听说还有骨头连不起来的问题，很担心。我27岁了，你觉得还有可能长高的空间吗?
1、手术是在哪个国家或者城市做靠谱？
2、手术费用是多少呢？包括后期调理的补品一共需要多少钱？
3、真的有残疾或者死亡的风险吗？我担心的是骨头连不上的问题等，想咨询一下您，希望你能帮帮我。谢谢你！


Hello, I'm 27 years old, 164CM. I want to do it. Would like to ask some of the following questions, please help me. Besides, I think 164CM wants to grow to 175CM. Although there is no guarantee, but I'm a little worried about your hammer down, will put the bones into the crack, then the bones on the vertical direction of crack, I am afraid. I'm worried about the problems of bones. I'm 27 years old. Do you think there's still room to grow taller?
1, which country or city does the operation do?
2. What is the cost of the operation? How much do you need for the tonic after conditioning?
3, is there a risk of disability or death? I'm worried about the bone can not connect, and so on, I would like to ask you, I hope you can help me. Thank you very much!

Hi Runwaway,

I think the best way to start is to read up various diaries.  At 27 years old (male or female?), there's definitely no more room to grow taller naturally.

If you want to grow from 164cm to 175cm, that's achieving 11cm and cannot be done in one section.  Hence, you have to look at femur lengthening of 6-7cm and tibia lengthening of 4-5cm.  It is A LOT of lengthening to do, so you'll need substantial financial reserve and time off from life.  Read the diary of  Iamready, he did both femur and tibia together.

1)  There are many countries with reknown doctors offering cosmetic limb lengthening and if you're from Asia, even China and Korea have reknown doctors.  It depends on your budget and how you can cope living faraway from the comforts of your home and culture.

2)  The cost of operation really varies from country to country and doctors.  Basic thumb of rule is if it sounds too good to be true, it's probably suspect.  That said, even the most expensive doctors are NOT a guarantee of good outcome

3)  There are a plethora of complications including some that you've stated like fracture during surgery, fractures after, non-union, infection, gangrene, even amputation or suicide/death.  The point is limb lengthening is a highly risky highly invasive procedure (and don't let ANYONE tell you otherwise), so you're really playing russian roulette.  Hence, the best you can do is risk mitigation like choosing a good experienced doctor, be prepared mentally/financially, research research research (knowledge is power), be diligent with your physiotherapy etc.

That said, feel free to PM me for more questions since you're currently in class CLL 101 

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Quote from: Unicorn888 on October 07, 2017, 11:58:34 AMHi Helloworld,

You're actually preaching to the converted, no worries   After reading the THE CHINA STUDY, I became very aware about alkaline foods, cancer, inflammation and became obsessed with anti-oxidants (tumeric, goji berries, blueberries, salmon, clove oil...etc), avoiding free radicals.

But I also know I really need a lot of calories and calcium/protein for bone growth, so I'm making an exception at the expense of later suffering from liver failure, kidney stones due to the high dosage of meds/calcium, and even cancer on day.

That said, that's why I balanced out my high protein diet with a lot of dark leafy greens, lemon water, dandelion root tea, liver heat pads, even got my bone marrow/meats sourced from free-range grass-fed non-hormone farms - I'm crazy I know but I fear all our foodstuff today, wrapped perfectly in plastic and beautifully ripened under fake sun glasshouses cause us more harm than good.  So I do try to alkanize as much as possible

But thank you for this because I'm a big fan of an alkaline based living, like yourself
Glad you are following a mainly plant based diet and are selective about what you eat!
About protein, if you think you need still more, I would take soy rather than casein, or albumin and stay away from BCAA.
For bone healing I only took lysine and arginine.