So today will be my meeting with Catagni. I can't sleep because of excitment.. You will wonder why (since it's only a consultation). For me this meeting will be the first time I will meet LL in the real world, not just theorizing about it in my mind and discussing it on the internet. This is the real "First step" which will decide what I am going to do.
My height neurosis started 2 years ago. While studying for endocrinology exam, one of the major chapter was growth defects. While reading it, I came across alot of writings about how it is of utmost importance to make sure that your kid (especially male kid) won't be short. Than I saw this huge picture of the W.H.O height diagram. For the first time, my height became a number that was put into a category and was statistically organized.. I became aware that I was shorter than 80-75% of other males on this planets... It struck me like a knife in the stomach.
From that moment of "realization" my height neurosis began... It started with the awful and annoying CONSTANT comparing while walking in the streets my height to others... It is a burden which I carried for two years now... This constant comparing, analizing, starring at other males and if they are taller than me or not. Walking in the streets became a psicological nightmare which I have no control over (I am not staying indoors because of it or something).
Afterwards, the simple mention of "Yeah he is tall, ohhh he is tall, I like tall guys, he is too short etc..." started to hurt my feelings (and before it didn't... I perfectly remember one of my girl buddies saying she doesnt like short guys and it didn't hurt me). It started to hurt me because I was now aware that this kind of compliement or whatever you wanna call it will never be adressed towards me.
Than came all the retrospective thoughts about how my life would have been if I have just been taller. These are the worst because we can't go back in time and there is no way to change the past or know "what would have been".
Today I am just in a situation where I can't stand it any longer. Yes. The main reason for me of doing this is to be more appealing to the other sex (Even though I did great till now)... I have had it with the "A few more cms wouldnt hurt you. Even though you are a little bit short you are still hot, once I got to know you, I didnt care anymore about your height, WOW! We are the same height!, I thought you were taller, you are lucky to be so good looking because you are not tall" and believe me that the list goes on and on and on and on...
I am happy (phyzically speaking) about every aspect of me (looks, muscles, shoudler width and what not) besides my height... Yeah, it's great that people and especially women are attracted to me because of my personality... But I want to feel wanted also because of my looks (Because I didn't f*king choose them). I want to be a guy that won't be put down just because he is not attractive enough.. It sucks to feel unattractive... It really is....
I remember this one incident where I was sitting with this super-model beautiful like girl. Everything was going great until we stood up. I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THAT EVER AGAIN (And it started after my height neurosis began).
All those feelings and thoughts are flowing through me because of the meeting today...
Sorry for the long post.
Quote from: ouroboros on February 29, 2016, 03:30:15 AMYou have to take a deep breath bro, it's just a consultation....
The most impressive thing will be if/when he introduces you to real patients and you realize that you are no longer dreaming (you're not in Kansas anymore Dorothy!)..... so buckle your seatbelt and enjoy the ride.....
He is my only option for doing this procedure (And It's not because of budget). If after the meeting with him I will not do LL than I will not do LL. I hope all will go well.
Quote from: Alu on February 29, 2016, 03:59:19 AMHe's going to say what you want to hear so really there's nothing "to worry about."
Eitherway, besides the sort of obvious mental problems you (and all of us have) that you don't really want to try to address that doesn't involve breaking yourself, good luck. Also you're not that short compared to the world; the male world average is around 5'7-5'8. Sure we live in western countries but still, I find it funny that you obviously made this assumption.
That's unhealthy. My best advice is stay away from the forum...I'm so much more happy away from all this BS. You're only feeding into your own madness. Life isn't best if one is taller, so many other factors to life mate.
In my own personal perspective, considering I can only ever possibly reach 5'8, I'd come to accept that you can't have it all and that is fine. Life's full of people of all shapes and sizes that go throughout their lives contempt with what they have. My height doesn't define me as a person
Great for you dude. So what are you doing on this forum again?
Quote from: Alu on February 29, 2016, 03:59:19 AMHe's going to say what you want to hear so really there's nothing "to worry about."
Eitherway, besides the sort of obvious mental problems you (and all of us have) that you don't really want to try to address that doesn't involve breaking yourself, good luck. Also you're not that short compared to the world; the male world average is around 5'7-5'8. Sure we live in western countries but still, I find it funny that you obviously made this assumption.
That's unhealthy. My best advice is stay away from the forum...I'm so much more happy away from all this BS. You're only feeding into your own madness. Life isn't best if one is taller, so many other factors to life mate.
In my own personal perspective, considering I can only ever possibly reach 5'8, I'd come to accept that you can't have it all and that is fine. Life's full of people of all shapes and sizes that go throughout their lives contempt with what they have. My height doesn't define me as a person
And no... The male world average is at 177cm. Just check the W.H.O graphs..
https://www.google.it/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwifxceVj5zLAhUCDZoKHeR7DR8QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbriuton.co.il%2F%3Fp%3D4587&bvm=bv.115339255,d.bGs&psig=AFQjCNEepAK_HJr4O3XTqB4CH7oRgWjV-w&ust=1456805899772036
First graph is for boys. Second is for girls. It measures height till 18 years. Information is according to the world health organization.
Knock youself out
Quote from: Alu on February 29, 2016, 04:33:50 AMI know right? I really can't understand it lol.
Anyways, considering that I've seen that exact same graph here in the U.S used by both my dad and other medical doctors I doubt that's accurate for world usage. Just consider the height of China for instances. It's below U.S height average, and considering they are 20% of the world population, then factor in other less developed nations (like India who also has a monstrous population numbers) and I highly doubt that the entire human population males average around 177 cms. For western/developed countries sure, not disputing that.
But again, that's perspective, I'm fine only ending up shorter then U.S average, if you can't though, then that's fine, that's you lol. Good luck
You are talking to me as if I am planning to do an operation to lengthen 10cm on on each of my segments... I am planning to do 5-6cm (and not a mm more). I will end up at a max of 177 (or at "the worst case" 176) and I will feel alright. I dont want to be tall... Just dont want to be short.
And why the hostility? Well because you think that the discontent of one's personal height is a mental disorder.
No it's not (unless it's part of body dysmophism disorder).
Does a fat man being sad for being fat is suffering from a mental disorder?
Does a skinny man being sad for not being muscular is suffering from a mental disorder?
Does a blad man being sad for losing his hair is suffering from a mental disorder?
I think not.
I was fat until the age of 15. I wasnt happy about it and one day I decided to change it and I lost 20 kgs though diet and exercize (I am still thin)
I was skinny till the age of 22. I wasnt happy about it and one day I started to hit the gym and today I still go regularly and I am happy.
I dont lose hair 
I always wanted to study medicine so to do it I left my country at the age of 19 to study abroad in a different language living by myself (Am I a nutcase for doing so?)
If there was any other way to change my height I would have done it. Unfortunatly LL is the only way which I know of today.
Tons of fat people are doing bariatric surguries.. I dont see anyone calling them crazy by deciding to cut out two third of their stomach (gastroctomy) or taking out all of their stomach and Duodenum (Sleeve gastronomy "en route en Y").
The only reason you see this procedure as "Mental" is because that is what you were meant to believe by society who keeps pumping you bull about accepting yourself no matter what. So no my forum comrade... If society truly believed a tenth of the bull it pumps into you, everyone would have been happy... And I have no will to fight society with it's superficiality (which derives from basic evolutionary instincts) in order to proove to myself that I am right...
There is a saying in Jeudaism: It's better to be smart than to be right.
Quote from: Thatdude950 on February 29, 2016, 08:09:18 PMYour entire reason for doing this surgery was misguided from the beginning. There's no way the average world height is 177cm.
Tell that to W.H.O... And you know what? let's say that all those people in those poor countries/areas take the world average to 170 or maybe even less... So what? I will never be there nor will I ever meet my soulmate among a lost tribe in central china or amongst the pigmies of africa.. I live in the developped world and so do you... I dont try to find comfort by saying "Hey, atleast I am tall in the Sahara! "
Quote from: Descreteuser on February 29, 2016, 10:48:36 PMto be honest, u shouldnt focus on the average because it includes older people who bring the average down alot.. from my experience, being 185 now i only feel just above average... i honestly think the average is 183 for young males..
where? Germany? Scandinavia? Good for them... I am neither
In Israel it is 177.2-3 according to the army (which studied males of 18-21 years old)
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