If you have a doctor you already go to, you should ask to be prescribed an anti-malarial medication. I had to take 3 meds before I entered India:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=634.msg11259#msg11259
You could try consuming probiotics regularly for a bit before entering India. May reduce your risk of getting stomach problems.
What are the pros and cons of Parihar vs Giotikas for Americans?
Quote from: KiloKAHN on January 06, 2021, 02:42:14 AMIf you have a doctor you already go to, you should ask to be prescribed an anti-malarial medication. I had to take 3 meds before I entered India:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=634.msg11259#msg11259
You could try consuming probiotics regularly for a bit before entering India. May reduce your risk of getting stomach problems.
Malaria!!! You could die from this! Is it very common in India? Do they have a lot of mosquitos or stagnant waters there?
There is a season of malaria (June through Sept). Just don't go in during that time and you'll be fine.
What are the possible downsides (not only for Americans but for people in general) of going to India instead of Greece? Suffering from a potential malaria disease.
Guys what are you even talking about? You are comparing a European first world country to India. Not that I don't like India or its people but you simply cannot compare these countries to each other. If you can go to Greece then go to Greece. I'd also rather choose West Palm Beach over Athens from a rational standpoint.
But maybe I am just overreacting bc I'm European and life, hygiene, Covid-control (hahah it's ty everywhere) and surgeon skills are as good as in Greece.
This might be subjective, but I recently had a chat with an indian friend, who told me that if he had the choice (he is extremelly wealthy) he would go to India. Why? The dream of most Indians is to be doctors, and within doctors, they study extremelly hard to be where they are.
If you have money, you could live in India living like you would in a first-world country, and most people exagerate when they say it is that bad (I am slightly biased as I am from a third-world country as well). You could stay at a 5-star hotel, order from top-restaurants, etc...
From what I see in the news, just a few countries have good COVID policies, so it doesn't matter if I go to the US, Greece, India, UK... they are all bad if I compare it where I am living now (Australia).
For Malaria, if you live in the city you will not find it. This is usually found in rural/excluded areas and you will know and be advised where it will be
In my case, I have chosen Greece as I see the appeal of living in Greece for some months (I will be working remotely from there), but if I chose to go to India, I would not be that scared, I would just be prepare for the country, e.g. research food (this will be a shock if you don't eat it), what to do, where to live... etc... and because I think I would be more comfortable in Greece, and I am planning on doing stryde and Giotikas has more cosmetic cases using this device.
Thanks!!!!!!
Tell us how it goes with Giotikas in a diary, I'm really curious about the PT and its neighborhood/finding a good place to stay in Athens, I've heard certain not so great things about the PT itself. I heard he switched PT places at one point
Quote from: Longer on January 06, 2021, 09:48:19 AMWhat are the possible downsides (not only for Americans but for people in general) of going to India instead of Greece? Suffering from a potential malaria disease.
Guys what are you even talking about? You are comparing a European first world country to India. Not that I don't like India or its people but you simply cannot compare these countries to each other. If you can go to Greece then go to Greece. I'd also rather choose West Palm Beach over Athens from a rational standpoint.
But maybe I am just overreacting bc I'm European and life, hygiene, Covid-control (hahah it's ty everywhere) and surgeon skills are as good as in Greece.
white supremacy at it's best
In my opinion:
Paley or US docs > Dr. Lee (he does a ton of lengthening) > Dr. Giotikas (because he does more cosmetic cases than Parihar) > Dr. Parihar
But stryde with parihar is better than lon or externals with any other doc.
Now if you can only afford Parihar then don't waste your time comparing India with Greece or the USA. Greece will be a lot more expensive than India(surgery, food, complications/additional operations cost, rent, visa fee, travel, helper, medicines, etc.). It's not just a 15k difference. it's more than that especially if you get any complications and need additional surgeries.
Quote from: indian on January 06, 2021, 10:00:17 PMwhite supremacy at it's best
Oh come on. It's not white supremacy to prefer a country with a higher Human Development Index over a country with a lower one. My second point is that Giotikas is actually cheaper, isn't he? If not, then I'll take that one back ofc.
I've also been to many EE countries and have seen the hygiene standards there, so if the standards in India are the same or lower it's a no brainer in my view.
It's not white supremacy to try to optimize the circumstances/conditions under which one wants to undergo the most risky cosmetic surgery in the world. I am not stating that any developing countries are bad in itself. Colonialism and Imperialism, which have been undeniably practiced by Europeans, have taken their toll on the southern hemisphere and thus they are also responsible for the struggles that the people in said countries experience. But from a patient point of view I'd simply prefer the closest/most developed country in which this surgery is affordable for me.
Quote from: indian on January 06, 2021, 10:04:22 PMIn my opinion:
Paley or US docs > Dr. Lee (he does a ton of lengthening) > Dr. Giotikas (because he does more cosmetic cases than Parihar) > Dr. Parihar
A higher number of CLL cases doesn't mean much. CLL cases are technically easier than deformity correction and trauma cases. Dr Paley himself, who performs the most CLL cases in the USA, even says in his interview with Cyborg that any orthopedic surgeon knows how to insert a nail, and that it's technically the easiest part of the entire process for the surgeon. CLL cases just have less room for error, which is why it's important for the surgeon to have extensive experience in non-cosmetic cases before doing CLL.
Dr Paley is the only one on that list who has Dr Parihar beat in terms of experience. Dr Parihar in 1991 was Dr Paley's 2nd ever clinical research fellow. Dr Lee didn't do his residency with Paley until 2010, and Dr Giotikas's first year as consultant orthopedic surgeon for the Greek army was in 2009, meaning Dr Parihar has approximately 20 years of experience over either of them. So yeah, Parihar has the fewest cosmetic patients because of his selectiveness, but he has the most years of treating the more complicated issues like deformities and traumas.
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