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Posted on Apr 1, 2016, 7:53 pm
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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on April 01, 2016, 05:53:35 PMI am sorry. But every single guy here who say that this 178-179 swedish guy is smart/conservative/ know what he is doing, just because he is doing 3-4cm at the most is an idiot.

You guys forget one crucial thing. He is 178-179cm tall. Nothing more to add

Never! !!!!!!!!
Your Life is not depend on cm 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
These operations will destroy your life for everything and will make Rich ONLY the doctor
Iunfotunatly did it.
Quote from: Bruno Mars on March 31, 2016, 12:56:11 AMm

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Posted on Apr 1, 2016, 8:03 pm
#52

Quote from: pricess on April 01, 2016, 07:53:51 PMNever! !!!!!!!!
Your Life is not depend on cm 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
These operations will destroy your life for everything and will make Rich ONLY the doctor
Iunfotunatly did it.

Tell us more about your experience please.

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Posted on Apr 1, 2016, 9:50 pm
#53

Quote from: TIBIKE200 on April 01, 2016, 05:53:35 PMI am sorry. But every single guy here who say that this 178-179 swedish guy is smart/conservative/ know what he is doing, just because he is doing 3-4cm at the most is an idiot.

You guys forget one crucial thing. He is 178-179cm tall. Nothing more to add

That is your personal opinion. At the same time, there will be plenty of 5'6 and 5'7 people out there saying that people at their height are idiots for even thinking about this surgery. Upperland is smart because he knows the downsides of this surgery. All of his posts are very constructive and made with well thoughts, unlike some idiots jump in here saying that they will do 15+ cms in 2 surgeries and turns out fine. 4-5 cm is absolutely the optimal amount to aim for if you want to comeback as close to your condition pre-op. Financially speaking,  It would be unreasonable had he lived in a 3rd world country and made $10k/year. But it does seems that he could afford the money, so why not do it. And more importantly, Sweden is the land of tall people. Sweden(the LL patient) did 7cm to be 1m8, got his legs screwed up, still he wants to get another 5 cms. If Uppland did 4cm, he will most likely recover 95%, no complications, never have to worry about his proportion, and most importantly he could claim his height to be average at where he lives.

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Posted on Apr 1, 2016, 10:15 pm
#54

Quote from: Bruno Mars on April 01, 2016, 09:50:49 PMThat is your personal opinion. At the same time, there will be plenty of 5'6 and 5'7 people out there saying that people at their height are idiots for even thinking about this surgery. Upperland is smart because he knows the downsides of this surgery. All of his posts are very constructive and made with well thoughts, unlike some idiots jump in here saying that they will do 15+ cms in 2 surgeries and turns out fine. 4-5 cm is absolutely the optimal amount to aim for if you want to comeback as close to your condition pre-op. Financially speaking,  It would be unreasonable had he lived in a 3rd world country and made $10k/year. But it does seems that he could afford the money, so why not do it. And more importantly, Sweden is the land of tall people. Sweden(the LL patient) did 7cm to be 1m8, got his legs screwed up, still he wants to get another 5 cms. If Uppland did 4cm, he will most likely recover 95%, no complications, never have to worry about his proportion, and most importantly he could claim his height to be average at where he lives.

Iwannabwgiant did 4.5cm. went into 178-179 and he is happy. Ohhh he is Swedish

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Posted on Apr 3, 2016, 1:58 pm
#55

Quote from: Alu on March 30, 2016, 02:34:51 AMNot about cost per CM. It's overall cost. You guys are easy to forget that there can be complications that aren't limited to how much you lengthen. In truth besides the height gain, you're also paying to be crippled for months on end, and within that period of time you might end up in an accident, however minor it may be, which could result in long term complications:

You slip while using your crutches and hit your legs hard, BAM the nail is bent, the muscles and bones are destroyed along with any possible tendons. This surgery journey isn't a given. And you start it by paying a fixed, crap-load of money you aren't getting back.


The cost doesn't matter for people with the means and the will to set the budget for this journey/surgery as long as they are well educated about it and most importantly to be certain that this is what they want.
Regarding the complications, we all know this procedure is not complication free and this can happen in any stage of the lengthening process but its well known too the less you lengthen the less chances of complications.......so we are talking deduction of risk which IMHO i think it favors Uppland, him being average he will need less cms compared to someone who will lengthen up to 8 cms.
We are all here because we somehow share a similar goal but it's also funny the same height discrimination we face in our communities gets reversed and now the average guys are getting bullied by rather shorter guys by oppressing their needs for this surgery sound pointless,but let me tell you something....even a guy with a 10 inch dck has other insecurities let it be baldness, bad breath e.t.c Why is it more important for some and not others? A Chinese average man is rather shorter than an average Dutch guy so if these guys need a surgery, should the Dutch not be given a priority since he is taller than the Chinese guy? These needs are driven by our cultures mostly so we shouldn't forget about that either before bashing someone's need after having a moment of comparison and assuming less means more or rather more means less. If he want's the surgery he should do it rather than regretting for the rest of his life for something which he had a chance to fix on his own way, in his country he might be a small guy so what's the point telling him '' You know back in India, you are a very tall guy'',....yeah right, he aint living in India, so what does that do him any good? We adapt to our surroundings, that's that or we should all renounce our passports and look for the countries with the shortest demographic and enjoy lack of height discrimination. What matters to you might not matter to me but that doesn't give me the right to judge or rather take your needs lightly.

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Posted on Apr 3, 2016, 4:11 pm
#56

Also its important to note that your satisfaction with recovery will heavily depend on what you do in your life. If you don't do sports/run I'd assume almost everyone going with a good dr. will be happy- As I've said before, pretty much everyone I've met very quickly returned to even sports with 6-8 CM of lengthening. Personally, if I had wanted to be athletic post LL, it would have been the gravest mistake of my life, but given that it wasnt a priority I am pretty happy with where I am on that front(able to run in shorter bursts, and walk normally), though it is important to note it took me very long to recover to that point, so people who have jobs or a strict schedule should always be really careful.

Its important to be realistic on every front of LL- How much it will cost/if you can actually afford it, how happy it will actually make you/if you will be satisfied, how long recovery will take, if you will be able to keep it a secret from friends/family/work if that matters to you, and what the permanent effects may be.

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Posted on Apr 4, 2016, 12:04 am
#57

Quote from: programdude on April 03, 2016, 04:11:20 PMAlso its important to note that your satisfaction with recovery will heavily depend on what you do in your life. If you don't do sports/run I'd assume almost everyone going with a good dr. will be happy- As I've said before, pretty much everyone I've met very quickly returned to even sports with 6-8 CM of lengthening. Personally, if I had wanted to be athletic post LL, it would have been the gravest mistake of my life, but given that it wasnt a priority I am pretty happy with where I am on that front(able to run in shorter bursts, and walk normally), though it is important to note it took me very long to recover to that point, so people who have jobs or a strict schedule should always be really careful.

Its important to be realistic on every front of LL- How much it will cost/if you can actually afford it, how happy it will actually make you/if you will be satisfied, how long recovery will take, if you will be able to keep it a secret from friends/family/work if that matters to you, and what the permanent effects may be.


Exactly! Of course there are few people i would rather call them careless or irresponsible who can have the budget but still fail to contemplate the extremity of this surgery e.g Leechlet ( I followed this kid for quite some time but there was so much holes in his lifestyle which interfered with his consolidation) That is why we have such forums and supposed to book for appointments with the recommended doctors to shade some lights regarding the procedure before jumping to a plan to unknown destinations to get a cheap CLL.

But in the end our needs are geographically based, a Chinese guy wouldn't feel pressured to be 6 ft compared to a below average Dutch. So this leads to a more variety in the CLL market compared to before when LL was limited to dwarfs and below averages. Some people might appear like they want more but if you put yourself in their shoes you will understand they just want to fit in as others.

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