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Posted on May 4, 2018, 9:22 am
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Quote from: myloginacct on May 04, 2018, 09:14:18 AMIt's good to have case studies of both people who lengthened too much and too little in scientific literature.

The long-term side effects of CLL in adults are still not well reported. You're not just stretching the soft tissues, even the blood vessels get stretched.


  man, that sounds scary.

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Posted on May 4, 2018, 9:33 am
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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on May 04, 2018, 09:22:35 AM  man, that sounds scary.


Pretty sure you've already seen the worst in CLL, but there's also anecdotal evidence of people being fine many years later.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2046.0

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Posted on May 4, 2018, 1:43 pm
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In my opinion if LL was dangerous to the extent where you would say, lose the ability to walk, then they would not even be allowing this procedure to happen, especially in the states. From what I have heard from others on this forum they say that femurs are safer, don't know for sure. Your stretched muacles and blood vessels, ect your body can get used to as long as you don't do too much in one segment but the only worry I have is Early arthiritis. It would be good if we had more people updating us on years later recovery.

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Posted on May 4, 2018, 2:29 pm
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Quote from: Hamiltonzac on May 04, 2018, 01:43:44 PMIn my opinion if LL was dangerous to the extent where you would say, lose the ability to walk, then they would not even be allowing this procedure to happen, especially in the states. From what I have heard from others on this forum they say that femurs are safer, don't know for sure. Your stretched muacles and blood vessels, ect your body can get used to as long as you don't do too much in one segment but the only worry I have is Early arthiritis. It would be good if we had more people updating us on years later recovery.


Third time I'm linking it in this thread I think, but the way to prevent osteoarthritis is to keep a good tibial:femoral ratio.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26398436

This, however, only really applies to people who are going to do both segments or cross lateral. The people doing tibias will just have to be conservative or deal with it.

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Posted on May 4, 2018, 3:17 pm
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Quote from: Hamiltonzac on May 04, 2018, 01:43:44 PMIn my opinion if LL was dangerous to the extent where you would say, lose the ability to walk, then they would not even be allowing this procedure to happen, especially in the states. From what I have heard from others on this forum they say that femurs are safer, don't know for sure. Your stretched muacles and blood vessels, ect your body can get used to as long as you don't do too much in one segment but the only worry I have is Early arthiritis. It would be good if we had more people updating us on years later recovery.


Well, the crap doctors got it banned in China.

And regarding the West, well...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobotomy


If external fixators weren't so important in treatment limb deformities in children, doing corrections, limb reconstructions, etc, there could have been a push to get cosmetic LL banned. It might still get banned (more likely scenario: just regulated) in the future, as CLL "industry" starts to bloom, and if scientific papers find a causal link between the procedure and much increased risks of mortality --- specially if new, safer methods of height increase have already become available at the time.

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Posted on May 12, 2018, 5:17 am
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I think in general if something becomes so vastly popular then no doctor would agree to get it banned as they also profit from it(that is if they have evidence that it is safe). I recall this article of a person changing their eye colour via lens insert by surgery, dangerous so to speak and not fda approved material used, ect. Of course it's banned in the States. My point is, that eye surgery is Not illegal in the U.S if its for patients who NEED it because of, say an injury. If they wanted to they could make it illegal, if they had a good enough reason(CLL). The doctors wouldnt exactly be out of business either, I would assume 70% or more of they're patients are there for non cosmetic reasons.
But I get what your saying. Now I'm sure there are hundreds who are living just fine after this surgery, if they had major problems its only fair to assume that they would speak up or warn others. It's 2018 after all, people would warn others, well, I know I would.

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Posted on May 12, 2018, 3:50 pm
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Cropped a pic posted around these parts for ease of use later:

What's the maximum safe lengthening for tibias? Is 6-7cm good?

What's the maximum safe lengthening for tibias? Is 6-7cm good?

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