What's your opinion on this?

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link edited, google " russianstarpeptides bmp 7 height formula" for more info.

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i suppose this stuff is fake bullsh*t for sure

There only 3 ways to increase your height:
1)natural growing
2)using HGH(can work) or peptides(very unlikely) if growth plates are still open
3)leg Lengthening
4)stretching with gravity boots(can gain 4 cm) but u will damage your spine a bit

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Quote from: YungGud on February 06, 2017, 11:31:24 AMi suppose this stuff is fake bullsh*t for sure

There only 3 ways to increase your height:
1)natural growing
2)using HGH(can work) or peptides(very unlikely) if growth plates are still open
3)leg Lengthening
4)stretching with gravity boots(can gain 4 cm) but u will damage your spine a bit

Don't underestimate pep. Anything that messes with your HGH / IGF-1 levels will work. Truly your best bet is to run Hexarelin + CJC-129 but it involves pinning yourself 3 times a day to retain consistently high HGH levels like a teen in puberty would. MK-677 works too but its a much longer gradual release of HGH and IGF-1 eventually decreases to a 20% only increase.

Also, even if you start at 17-18, you can probably expect 3 inches MAX. I've seen anecdotes of dudes who ran CJC-129 from being 5'6 since they were 16 and they suddenly put on 3 inches in a year of being 18 and ended up 5'10 at 21. There is no "if" to this. If the compound you get is good quality and not dat Chinese crap, and you get your blood work done to see increased HGH, and your growth plates aren't sealed, you *will* grow.

Be warned that by running an aggressive stack of CJC-129 and Hexarelin for a year, if it does work, it's probable that just shortened your life span by about 5 years. However, if you are really that desperate (desperate times call for desperate measures) I would take that trade off to live a much happier 70 years at 5'8 than okayish 75 years at 5'5.

IMO the opinion of growth like this is that your torso and frame also grow along with your legs. For a lot of us guys under 5'7, frame is a big issue. Having to do LL and then clavicle lengthening (still not even a good fix, because I'd still have a small bideltoid width) would probably shorten my life span as well, and if it doesn't, then you'll still have a lower QOL (severely reduced athletic ability and loss of range of motion).

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No one wants to believe me, but I guarantee, this is where the NBA college spurt effect happens. Do you really think Dennis rodman, with the tallest person in his family being 5'7, just got 8 inches as a sophomore in college?

The moment I got to college I knew people who were doing steroids working out in the college gym. Them being prospective pro athletes and passionate about basketball (I'm not even atheletic) I'd imagine they'd also also know some people who were using steroids.

And then there's the fact that multiple atheletic health clinics have been shut down for dosing HGH out to pro atheletes.

Now don't get your hopes up just yet. I'd say you have alt a 70% chance of getting compounds that aren't dat Chinese and a 30% chance of having growth plates open past 17. Meaning you have about a 21% chance of having this work for you. The only way to know for sure is to get blood tests / x-days. But honestly a months supply of compounds would only run $40 so that may not even be worth it.

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You are wrong about frames though... Body frame has nothing to do with height (to a degree of course... A 5'5 guy would never have the frame of a 6' guy).
  I am a 5'7 guy with a big frame.. I wear size L coats and shirts (in order to match the shoulder width..) and they are adherent to my shoulders.

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on February 06, 2017, 02:52:47 PMYou are wrong about frames though... Body frame has nothing to do with height (to a degree of course... A 5'5 guy would never have the frame of a 6' guy).
  I am a 5'7 guy with a big frame.. I wear size L coats and shirts (in order to match the shoulder width..) and they are adherent to my shoulders.

Of course there are still odd people like Adam Scott and Kid Cudi who have the frames of 5'5-5'6 men despite being 5'10 but it's pretty unusual. I would say at least 60% of people have roughly the same frame at the same height.

Like I said this is only really a problem for guys under 5'7. I've never seen a guy 4 inches taller than me with a frame like mine so if I get LL I hope I don't feel fooked lol.

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Quote from: CaptainAmerica on February 06, 2017, 02:41:03 PMNo one wants to believe me, but I guarantee, this is where the NBA college spurt effect happens. Do you really think Dennis rodman, with the tallest person in his family being 5'7, just got 8 inches as a sophomore in college?

The moment I got to college I knew people who were doing steroids working out in the college gym. Them being prospective pro athletes and passionate about basketball (I'm not even atheletic) I'd imagine they'd also also know some people who were using steroids.

And then there's the fact that multiple atheletic health clinics have been shut down for dosing HGH out to pro atheletes.

Now don't get your hopes up just yet. I'd say you have alt a 70% chance of getting compounds that aren't dat Chinese and a 30% chance of having growth plates open past 17. Meaning you have about a 21% chance of having this work for you. The only way to know for sure is to get blood tests / x-days. But honestly a months supply of compounds would only run $40 so that may not even be worth it.

Rodman was using HGH or steroids no doubt but his father no less then 6 ft

i'm interesting in  if this is true that growth plates on the wrist fusing first?

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Quote from: YungGud on February 06, 2017, 03:08:54 PMRodman was using HGH or steroids no doubt but his father no less then 6 ft

i'm interesting in  if this is true that growth plates on the wrist fusing first?

Yes wrist fuses first by anywhere from as much as 6 months to 2 years for legs and vertebrae. If you're already noticing wrist fusion and you're truly desperate take as much Letrozole as you can to lower estrogen and prevent further fusion. This is the scenario where you may only get 2 inches, maybe 3 if you're really lucky.

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Quote from: CaptainAmerica on February 06, 2017, 03:16:27 PMYes wrist fuses first by anywhere from as much as 6 months to 2 years for legs and vertebrae. If you're already noticing wrist fusion and you're truly desperate take as much Letrozole as you can to lower estrogen and prevent further fusion. This is the scenario where you may only get 2 inches, maybe 3 if you're really lucky.

Some research saw that using estrogen blockers caused problems with the spine growth (Scoliosis and such). That's because the spine is more influenced by sex hormones than HGH

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on February 06, 2017, 03:22:37 PMSome research saw that using estrogen blockers caused problems with the spine growth (Scoliosis and such). That's because the spine is more influenced by sxx hormones than HGH

Yep estrogen is also important for bone growth. But I feel like it's a trade off you have to take.