What's your opinion on this?

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Quote from: CaptainAmerica on February 06, 2017, 01:58:19 PMDon't underestimate pep. Anything that messes with your HGH / IGF-1 levels will work. Truly your best bet is to run Hexarelin + CJC-129 but it involves pinning yourself 3 times a day to retain consistently high HGH levels like a teen in puberty would. MK-677 works too but its a much longer gradual release of HGH and IGF-1 eventually decreases to a 20% only increase.

Also, even if you start at 17-18, you can probably expect 3 inches MAX. I've seen anecdotes of dudes who ran CJC-129 from being 5'6 since they were 16 and they suddenly put on 3 inches in a year of being 18 and ended up 5'10 at 21. There is no "if" to this. If the compound you get is good quality and not dat Chinese crap, and you get your blood work done to see increased HGH, and your growth plates aren't sealed, you *will* grow.

Be warned that by running an aggressive stack of CJC-129 and Hexarelin for a year, if it does work, it's probable that just shortened your life span by about 5 years. However, if you are really that desperate (desperate times call for desperate measures) I would take that trade off to live a much happier 70 years at 5'8 than okayish 75 years at 5'5.

IMO the opinion of growth like this is that your torso and frame also grow along with your legs. For a lot of us guys under 5'7, frame is a big issue. Having to do LL and then clavicle lengthening (still not even a good fix, because I'd still have a small bideltoid width) would probably shorten my life span as well, and if it doesn't, then you'll still have a lower QOL (severely reduced athletic ability and loss of range of motion).

Insted of pinning 3x a day, you can use CJC 1295 with DAC which only requires to do it twice a week. Also, i dont believe that someone can be much more taller with peptides, only with huge amounts of GH.

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Quote from: Rlover on February 06, 2017, 03:47:42 PMInsted of pinning 3x a day, you can use CJC 1295 with DAC which only requires to do it twice a week. Also, i dont believe that someone can be much more taller with peptides, only with huge amounts of GH.

This is why you don't use the one with the DAC. It's bleed vs 3 high pulses of HGH a day. By pinning 3 time a day you can get your HGH up to pharma levels.

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And whats you opinion about DAC? Do you see any dangerous in the long term by having constant high IGF-1 levels?

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Body frame is also something I'm struggling with. I have narrow shoulders and narrow hips. My hands are kinda large though like my dad. Who is like 5'11 with broad shoulders. It's very unfortunate for me. Hgh only really benefits at a young age like 11 or 12 when males first start puberty. My goals are LL 5 cm and clavicle lengthening, if not I will settle for implants. Also don't look at your wrist size to determine frame, I know many people who have average/large skeletal frames but have tiny wrists.

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Quote from: CaptainAmerica on February 06, 2017, 01:58:19 PMAlso, even if you start at 17-18, you can probably expect 3 inches MAX. I've seen anecdotes of dudes who ran CJC-129 from being 5'6 since they were 16 and they suddenly put on 3 inches in a year of being 18 and ended up 5'10 at 21. There is no "if" to this. If the compound you get is good quality and not dat Chinese crap, and you get your blood work done to see increased HGH, and your growth plates aren't sealed, you *will* grow.

Do you even have any scientific proof that one can grow 3 inches with HGH after 17?

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Some people can, depends on how your bones growth progressed.

They don't check wrist growth plates for lolz but because they are first one to fuse(so rest of it can be still open = HGH cycle can bring results)

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i have a theoretical question about this since i've heard taking HGH only does 5 inches max lets say if one were to take alot would you grow abnormally like a giant until you discontinue it? while growth plates are open of course. this was a question i been interested to speculate on since natural giants produce alot of HGH almost to the point were they die because of that and from what i know they dont have it in there genes to be giants. like the tallest person ever father was 5'10 and im sure his mom was average female height. so to me it seems genes dont count when your body can produce alot of GH

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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on February 06, 2017, 07:38:26 PMSome people can, depends on how your bones growth progressed.

But I say the overwhelming majority of people don't. Not after 17.

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I'm 29, is it completely useless to try peptides + mk 677 to try to gain some height? Even if its 1 inch?

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Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on February 06, 2017, 07:09:32 PMDo you even have any scientific proof that one can grow 3 inches with HGH after 17?

Yes. Growth plates open + HGH = growth. That's where the 30% figure comes from, cause I'm assuming that passed 17 only around ~30% of people will still grow an inch or so (this is just what I've observed high school -> college).

Quote from: Rlover on February 06, 2017, 10:06:28 PMI'm 29, is it completely useless to try peptides + mk 677 to try to gain some height? Even if its 1 inch?

Unfortunately. The oldest I've ever heard someone growing is 23. You'll find a lot of anecdotes online of people who think they grow when they're 30 or 25 or something. I really think they probably just measured morning height, improved posture, or started wearing Nikes lol.