Prakash,
I'm not 5'6" anymore, but when I was, I never perceived that I was "short" in India. Of course, the experience at 5'4" is completely different. I never perceived the level of heightism in India that I did in the US. Our Prime Minister is barely 5'8". Our former President was like 5'2". Aamir Khan and Sachin Tendulkar are both below 5'4".
However Hollywood and Bollywood might be changing perceptions now. The average height of 18 year olds in urban India (Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore, Surat, Ahmedabad, Chennai, Kolkota, Pune) is 5'9", which is the same as the United States. The younger generations (especially the middle class) are getting taller and taller. When I was growing up, I had one uncle who was 5'11" and he was the tallest person in the family. Now I have several younger cousins who are 6'+.
Why you deserve and want to be taller?
Quote from: Purushrottam on December 21, 2017, 02:26:23 AMBodybuilder, how tall are you if you don't mind me asking?
1.68 before LL and 1.75,5 now on the morning.
For evening height I am about 1.5-2 cm less.
Quote from: Body Builder on December 21, 2017, 08:02:42 AM1.68 before LL and 1.75,5 now on the morning.
For evening height I am about 1.5-2 cm less.
That is the same height as me. I know a body builder that height (semi pro) who absolutely wiped the floor when it came to women. Not to take away from your experience though.
Quote from: Purushrottam on December 21, 2017, 03:56:19 AMWhen I was growing up, I had one uncle who was 5'11" and he was the tallest person in the family. Now I have several younger cousins who are 6'+.
Crazy. Why do you think that is? Such a big difference in the span of a generation.
In my family, it has been the opposite. Men have been getting smaller.
Quote from: myloginacct on December 21, 2017, 06:28:46 PMCrazy. Why do you think that is? Such a big difference in the span of a generation.
In my family, it has been the opposite. Men have been getting smaller.
I'm not sure where you are from but if it's a developing country, I have an explanation. A significant portion of your height is determined by your childhood nutrition intake. Early childhood diseases restrict the body's nutrition intake, even if the child is getting proper nutrition.
Before modern sanitation, population density was a big factor in childhood disease incidence. The denser the country, the higher the incidence of disease. This is why the Dutch were so short in the early 1900s, while the south Sudanese were very tall (5'11" avg in the 1950s).
Countries like India and Sudan became more dense over time, which made diseases more prevalent. Even being well off doesn't protect you from disease if the environment isn't sanitary. . This is made worse by the practice of open defecation. However this is no longer prevalent in urban India, even amongst the impoverished. This explains the huge height disparity between urban and rural India and between younger and older generations.
In the case of my family, I think it's because the men have been marrying short women over the last 2 generations. My paternal grandfather was 5'10, and he married my ~5'1 (~155cm, maybe even less) grandmother. My father is 5'9. One of my problems is that even the men in my mother's family are tall. It's just the women who are short. My mother is 5'3" (160cm) but her brother (my uncle) is 6 feet tall. I'm the shortest male member of my family.
I do always feels jealous of the people who grow up to good heights even while having very short parents, but that's just genetics for you. Good someone got a lucky draw, at least. I just try to keep telling myself height is not that important.
Quote from: Purushrottam on December 21, 2017, 07:06:33 PMI'm not sure where you are from but if it's a developing country, I have an explanation. A significant portion of your height is determined by your childhood nutrition intake. Early childhood diseases restrict the body's nutrition intake, even if the child is getting proper nutrition.
Before modern sanitation, population density was a big factor in childhood disease incidence. The denser the country, the higher the incidence of disease. This is why the Dutch were so short in the early 1900s, while the south Sudanese were very tall (5'11" avg in the 1950s).
Countries like India and Sudan became more dense over time, which made diseases more prevalent. Even being well off doesn't protect you from disease if the environment isn't sanitary. . This is made worse by the practice of open defecation. However this is no longer prevalent in urban India, even amongst the impoverished. This explains the huge height disparity between urban and rural India and between younger and older generations.
Makes sense to me. I also think that childhood lifestyle (food, nutrition, health, disease, sports etc.) is the biggest decider (genetics comes very distant second) in deciding someone's height. I think I would have been taller if I were not from a vegetarian poor family (staple food was bread and vegetable curry, with some milk at night) and were taking in more protein.
Quote from: Purushrottam on December 21, 2017, 03:56:19 AMPrakash,
I'm not 5'6" anymore, but when I was, I never perceived that I was "short" in India. Of course, the experience at 5'4" is completely different. I never perceived the level of heightism in India that I did in the US. Our Prime Minister is barely 5'8". Our former President was like 5'2". Aamir Khan and Sachin Tendulkar are both below 5'4".
However Hollywood and Bollywood might be changing perceptions now. The average height of 18 year olds in urban India (Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore, Surat, Ahmedabad, Chennai, Kolkota, Pune) is 5'9", which is the same as the United States. The younger generations (especially the middle class) are getting taller and taller. When I was growing up, I had one uncle who was 5'11" and he was the tallest person in the family. Now I have several younger cousins who are 6'+.
I don't know when you left India, post 2010 India is much taller, even 5'6" comes short, trust me. And world is changing, perceptions are changing. There was a time when in Rural india very short (5'2") but fair and good looking males were more preferred then taller avergae (5'8") males by beautiful girls and there was a time when full figured males were preferred over thin males, but that ended in the 90's. World standards are being imposed all over and people's mind are being impacted by that. Thin, tall males are in fade now. Think about it, in earlier days pale was beautiful and tan was low class now it is opposite. I know many aunties who would swear that men are not attractive without mustache while their new generation/young daughters hate men with mustaches.
Note - sorry, I read later part of your response now and I see you have already acknowledged and addressed the height increase in new India.
Quote from: dean9191 on December 21, 2017, 01:20:56 AMPraskash i want to clear something up. U accused me of insulting u for being indian. But u didn't im an asain myself too. India is way better than my country. But I've lived in Europe for a long time so I know the standards. When u opened the thread about dr.parihars clinic, by asking whether ur indian I meant the appearance won't be much of a suprise to u if u were an indian. For me i don't expect European standards in my country or india but i know we have cleaver doctors like any other region. Anyway u sound like an awesome guy
no problem man, we fight we make up, we are friends.
Quote from: myloginacct on December 21, 2017, 12:10:08 AMNot everyone judges based on looks. Also, lots of really good people also look really bad. So I don't see height as a matter of deserving it or not; it wouldn't stop at just height. I do get your point, however.
Have you already tried using lifts plus any form of elevated shoes if you only care about the social perception you get from height?
As for myself, I'd like to get taller to have peace of mind. I'd reach my father's height and never have to think about it again.
The truth is unless someone comes to know you real real well, looks are the only things that matter. The problem is that the probability of being friends with attractive women who would come to know you well and will be available (they are always taken 
for you to do yoru game, is very slim and you will need to wait a lot. On the other hand, since looks are primary even taller s have better chance then the short guy because most women you will meet will not know your nice soul unless you get the chance to show them your soul (and as I said the chance is slim). yes, i am wearing lifts from last 3 years and it has helped to some extent (example - a beautiful Chinese girl checking me out again and again in California this March) but I want more from life and I feel I deserve more from life, 2.5 inch lift wont do 
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