Quote from: Body Builder on December 21, 2017, 12:21:05 AMI tried my best to improve all my aspects in my appearance and general in myself and now I am a 29 yo man with a good looking face (I go for grooming every 15-20 days), big muscles with less than 15% fat, good style and clothes, a high education diploma and a better than average job.
But still I don't get the attention I would and I can't many women I could only because I am not tall enough.
So I tried very hard to improve everything I could physically and my only drawback (not big after my first LL but still drawback) is my height.
So I really believe I deserve a second LL and a better height to become a completely fulfilled person and get all the things I tried and worked for.
I say go for it buddy. I myself have been contemplating whether to do one segment LL with an expensive doctor like Paley or two segments with cheaper doctors and I am now convinced that I will go for the kill, two segments.
Why you deserve and want to be taller?
Quote from: prakash419 on December 22, 2017, 03:31:34 AMMakes sense to me. I also think that childhood lifestyle (food, nutrition, health, disease, sports etc.) is the biggest decider (genetics comes very distant second) in deciding someone's height. I think I would have been taller if I were not from a vegetarian poor family (staple food was bread and vegetable curry, with some milk at night) and were taking in more protein.
I also blame myself for my diet.
Height is mostly genetic, but it apparently varies based on your background. Apparently, 35% of an Asian's person height is due to their diet whereas it's only 20% in whites. I feel these are very broad generalizations, specially considering how intricate human genetics can get, but there must be some truth to them.
i have exactly same experience as you. i am a very intelligent person but people just judge me by my height. i feel unfair so i went to dr. Solomin
Quote from: myloginacct on December 22, 2017, 05:43:46 PMI also blame myself for my diet.
Height is mostly genetic, but it apparently varies based on your background. Apparently, 35% of an Asian's person height is due to their diet whereas it's only 20% in whites. I feel these are very broad generalizations, specially considering how intricate human genetics can get, but there must be some truth to them.
Yes, i personally believe genetics has only 20% to with it, 60% is lifestyle like food, sports, sleep (and 20% other things like mental heath - happiness,anxiety gravity, weather, air/water quality etc.)
Quote from: DreamKamchatka on January 01, 2018, 07:40:18 AMi have exactly same experience as you. i am a very intelligent person but people just judge me by my height. i feel unfair so i went to dr. Solomin
yes, and it pains when idiots, bad persons gain more attention because they are taller
Quote from: prakash419 on January 01, 2018, 10:25:46 AMYes, i personally believe genetics has only 20% to with it, 60% is lifestyle like food, sports, sleep (and 20% other things like mental heath - happiness,anxiety gravity, weather, air/water quality etc.)
No, genetics are more than 90%.
Stop people think that you meant to be tall but you cut your growth because you didn't sleep 10 hours oer day, you weren't the happiest kid in the world, you didn't eat a cow per day and all this bs.
99% of short men are short because their genes made them short and their life style stunted their growth for at max 1 inch. Only people sith hgh deficit didn't get their potencial height, noone else.
So stop thinking that you could have beem taller because you wouldn't .
But we have LL so everything can be fixed.
Quote from: Body Builder on January 01, 2018, 12:47:48 PMNo, genetics are more than 90%.
Stop people think that you meant to be tall but you cut your growth because you didn't sleep 10 hours oer day, you weren't the happiest kid in the world, you didn't eat a cow per day and all this bs.
99% of short men are short because their genes made them short and their life style stunted their growth for at max 1 inch. Only people sith hgh deficit didn't get their potencial height, noone else.
So stop thinking that you could have beem taller because you wouldn't .
But we have LL so everything can be fixed.
Bodybuilder, I appreciate your contribution to this forum, but this is factually incorrect. In Western populations, height will be 80% genetic because most people in the West have similar levels of medical access and nutrition. Even low income families get enough nutrition for it to not impact height.
If height was over 90% genetic, South Koreans would not be 3 inches taller than North Koreans and rural Indians would not be3-4 inches shorter than urban Indians. In populations with unequal access to healthcare and nutrition, a significantly lower portion of height is genetic.
Quote from: Purushrottam on January 02, 2018, 04:31:58 AMBodybuilder, I appreciate your contribution to this forum, but this is factually incorrect. In Western populations, height will be 80% genetic because most people in the West have similar levels of medical access and nutrition. Even low income families get enough nutrition for it to not impact height.
If height was over 90% genetic, South Koreans would not be 3 inches taller than North Koreans and rural Indians would not be3-4 inches shorter than urban Indians. In populations with unequal access to healthcare and nutrition, a significantly lower portion of height is genetic.
I really wish I could read about the nutrition breakdown somewhere. I've heard some doctors say that just being able to eat everyday would let you reach your nutrition height. But is it really just eating everyday? How much does the actual diet factor into that?
Are many urban Indians vegetarians still? I'm really curious to know if vegetarian, urban Indians are still that much taller than rural Indians. I blame myself for losing height because I went vegetarian at an early age. It'd be nice to get that off my mind if it played almost no part in my final adult height.
Quote from: Purushrottam on January 02, 2018, 04:31:58 AMBodybuilder, I appreciate your contribution to this forum, but this is factually incorrect. In Western populations, height will be 80% genetic because most people in the West have similar levels of medical access and nutrition. Even low income families get enough nutrition for it to not impact height.
If height was over 90% genetic, South Koreans would not be 3 inches taller than North Koreans and rural Indians would not be3-4 inches shorter than urban Indians. In populations with unequal access to healthcare and nutrition, a significantly lower portion of height is genetic.
very well said and explained. Agreed. And that is why across all areas whenever there is better nutrition the generations grow taller. It is well documented and established. Nutrition and lifestyle trumps all.
Quote from: myloginacct on January 02, 2018, 06:01:15 AMI really wish I could read about the nutrition breakdown somewhere. I've heard some doctors say that just being able to eat everyday would let you reach your nutrition height. But is it really just eating everyday? How much does the actual diet factor into that?
Are many urban Indians vegetarians still? I'm really curious to know if vegetarian, urban Indians are still that much taller than rural Indians. I blame myself for losing height because I went vegetarian at an early age. It'd be nice to get that off my mind if it played almost no part in my final adult height.
That's not entirely true, what about protein? thought it is true to some extent (that is to say that having healthy appetite and eating per that is good), but that's why I used the word 'lifestyle', take my example - I ate less (like freakishly less) not because I did not have access to food, but had low appetite then i started playing some sports and appetite grew but it was too late, and on top of that all I ate was vegetable curry, bread, rice, and very occasionally some milk and some cereals ( so no adequate protein) i realized that the diet was no good when I was 20 and started eating eggs, but it was too late.
And NO, most urban people now are turning to eating meat in India, even my friends who do not eat meat at home, all of them eat loads of meat outside everyday, just to save face at home they show they don't (even their fathers eat meat outside) and many families that are traditionally vegetarian have long back started eating meat because they realized meat is easiest way to protein. Also note that urban well to do (and even well to do rural) indians eat better quality veg food like paneer (dairy), cereals etc. which thought not as big a protein source as meat, is still better than vegetable curries 
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