Will Dr. Kevin Debiparshad do LL for himself? I will believe in LL after that

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Quote from: NotSoBigBadBruin on September 07, 2020, 01:30:12 PMOK, so if you’re convinced that the size of your current dating pool is too small, then I hope there are no other factors preventing you from finding your Mrs. Right.

Lmao. No one said anything about finding Mrs. Right.

Quote from: NotSoBigBadBruin on September 07, 2020, 01:30:12 PMI’d love to see some before/after photos of men with ugly faces who have become super handsome through plastic surgery.

Ehm. To be honest it's not something I research deeply because I don't have that big of problems in this department. But I heard it's quite common in Korea/China.

https://www.google.com/search?q=korean+plastic+surgery+before+after&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiAh5irldfrAhUK8DgGHcRjDtsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=korean+plastic+surgery+before+after&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzICCAAyBAgAEB4yBggAEAUQHjIGCAAQBRAeMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeUIQBWNoNYMwOaABwAHgBgAHlAYgB4gmSAQU2LjQuMZgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=1DdWX4DNHYrg4-EPxMe52A0&bih=657&biw=1366

I don't know if these are real, but some of these at least gotta be.

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Quote from: Body Builder on September 07, 2020, 01:15:13 PMIf someone has a decent height, a slim or muscular body (not something extreme) with a good stylr and not an ugly face (no need to look handsome) he literally can have any woman he wants in terms of appearance and only.

If that‘s true, then why has my uncle who is 188 cm been single his entire life? He’s a great guy, not ugly, just not very handsome. I actually know quite a few guys who are not popular with women despite being tall.

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Quote from: a on September 07, 2020, 11:45:56 AMI'm 173, 175 in the morning.

Since I'm a little under average I'd benefit this surgery a lot. Because I can simply be taller for the rest of my life with good proportions.
If you are short, everything related to you will be short (average measurements, there are people with too long torso lengths for their height but it's like 1/10000). Your hands, your skull, your feet, your torso, shoulders etc.

The best LL is when you go to "tall" from "average". If you are saying that you'd never do CLL at 170cm, it's because you were not born at that height. If I were like 160cm, I'd definetely think that 170is a good height. But it's not. It sucks. You feel like god has cursed you. He has given you everything but height. It's a real torture.

Being below 170 is 2x torture, I know. But if you are in 160cm range and be 170, you'll simply have long legs and small af torso. It has a great chance of looking bad. Me, as an average person I can tell you that my torso and my limbs are as tall as the natural tall guys. So are most of the people I know who are average. Tall people only has 5-10cm advantage coming from their legs. Their torso would be taller than mine maximumly 2cm. Why not lengthening my legs to be "tall"? It's the best gift in the world.

Mostly average people have problems with their arm length and hand length. But I'm lucky to have big hands. In my future CLL experience (if happens) the only - thing will be my slightly short arms. Nobody will care though. But if you are short and be average, it won't look as good as average to tall CLL.

Not really.
I was a very big guy, with 45cm arms and 118 chest width at 1.68 cm. Like me there are many bidybuilders with height less than 1.70 (D. Jackson, Lee Priest) who are massive but still short.
There are many big guys (big arms, wide back) who are just short as there are plenty average or tall guys who are skinny.
Big and tall is not the same.

And a short one will have more benefits if he becomes average because from almost nothing he is back in the track.
An average becoming tall has things easier than before on dating (nowhere else) amd thats it. A short one however will have benefits in everything if he becomes average.
That said if you are very short and still short after LL, things will become somehow better but still most problems will remain.

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^ 1000% agree

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Quote from: NotSoBigBadBruin on September 07, 2020, 01:47:16 PMIf that‘s true, then why has my uncle who is 188 cm been single his entire life? He’s a great guy, not ugly, just not very handsome. I actually know quite a few guys who are not popular with women despite being tall.

Maybe he has a bad body, style or ugly face ir he is a retarf who can't even talk to a woman normally.
I can guarantee you though that if he was short he would be a disaster with women.

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Though if you go from very short to short, the externals may still be the same but the mental shift is HUGE for the person themselves. And ultimately that's what matters

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Quote from: Body Builder on September 07, 2020, 01:05:45 PMThe same told me my LL doctor before doing me achilles tendon lengthening, that the difference won't be visible to anyone other than athletes, and I couldn't even walk properly!
If I haven't done tendon shortening with my last doctor (God bless him) I would be doomed.
So, in a few words, doctors say bs to promote their work and get money.

Of course you'll lose a lot of athletic abilities, you risk oremature arthritis etc with LL, no matter what some doctors say. Stretching your tissues for 6-8 cm is not a joke.
That said, if things go well, eith a good doctor and without lengthenung too much, you'll walk good and generally be fine, but you won't be competitive in any sport that needs your feet, just an average amateur if you train hard.

So, if doing sports is the most important for you, LL wilk ruin you. If you are a normal person, LL and the social benefits of being taller will really help your life a lot. You can't have everything in life.

Ive no idea where you got this done, but Dr. Kevin Debiparshad is board certified and American. He has degrees from Harvard and a great  Canada university and done fellowship with Paley. He uses newest and minimally invasive technology. He is confident of this procedure enough to bring it to main stream attention.

He went to "DOCTORS" TV show and presented a patient to a live audience. You have to be really confident about this to do that. He has done interviews with major media outlets. Telling some lies to patients in person is one thing but in front a live TV audience seen by hundreds of thousands is a different matter. He is putting a lot of reputation at stake. He wouldnt do it unless he was sure.

He wants this procedure to become mainstream and not something only crazy people do. This builds confidence in the procedure. People can do it without hiding.

The only thing for me is to see "skin in the game". If he does it for himself, I Would be convinced 100%.

In fact I still have hope that he will do this some day. That he will be pausing new patients for a month or two until his surgery is done. Then it will become more mainstream.

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Quote from: Tartar on September 07, 2020, 01:32:37 PMDude I don’t know why but in almost every single post in this forum, even if about different topics, you always wrap up every information about your body your height your proportion claiming how good you can be with the surgery but I don’t know what’s your purpose lol. If you are so sure about this don’t worry you don’t need to look for the approval of the forum dwellers, don’t need to convince yourself

Cus that's how I am Tartar. Yes you don't "know". Das how 'am rollin'. You might wanna simply ignore my content. I'm a supermaniac. I'll keep asking these questions again. Tomorrow again, later, again. You'll see a lot of my stupid posts here. If only there was a blocking feature. You could simply block me and boom.

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Quote from: a on September 07, 2020, 11:49:10 AM

edit: If you are doing it for women, after your CLL when you get to know a girl and she starts to like you, you'll be paranoid because your prominent feature (your height) will be artificial and you'll simply know that, that girl would have never liked you if you hadn't get the CLL done. It will probably hurt. Don't do it for women!

Becoming tall from average is only for women and easier dating.
If you are not doing it for dating at your height, then you are comoletely false and delutional.

I did LL mostly for that and I am thinkimg to become really tall with another LL only for that, as now at 1.76 I don't face difficulties in any other aspect of my life. And I never cared if a woman dated me at my orevious height, she may not and I don't care at all. She wouldn't maybe date me if I was skinny and not muscular or if I wore bad clothes. But I am what I am and my new height is a part of me so I don't care about all these nonsense.
After all, I wouldn't date too a woman if she didn't have a fit body or king hairs, etc. So if my current gf was obese I wouldn't have dated her. But she isn't, as I am not short anymore. So noone cares about all these, you are what you look now, not in the past. And any LLer tried a lot for his height so he must be much more proud of it compared to any natural born average-tall guy.

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I'm definetely not doing it for dating. As I said, nobody has ever called me short. It's all about my perspective. I want to be the guy in my standarts and there's nothing wrong with that. My mindset is what kills me. I'm a do or die guy. If there's a thing which can make you taller, I'd prefer dying while doing it. I just don't want to stay in this range. I just wanna be taller. That's plain.

Also yeah, I wanna be modelling. Probably ain't gonna be a professional but who cares. I'm thinking about starting my own clothing company soon. I have 2-3 close relatvies who are in this industry so my back is tight. I'm not delusional or anything lol.. Also, my style is good but nothing fkn fits me because of my height. I need longer limbs. It's all about liking myself when I look at the mirror. Sometimes I don't even wanna go out because of my height.

second edit: If I were taller I'd probably be the guy who every girl is trying to fk with but he doesn't care at all. I'm not really into these stuff tbh lol. Fking, sxx etc. Because in my entire high school time I've made out so much that I'm fkn fulfilled for life now. I'm a kid btw. You all are older than me.