Will Dr. Kevin Debiparshad do LL for himself? I will believe in LL after that

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Quote from: Body Builder on September 07, 2020, 01:05:45 PMYou can't have everything in life.

Not exactly. Some people do have everything in life. CR7 is the definition of having everything in life. Basically there are lots of tall athletes.

Athletic functions are a huge sacrifice. Even if you're not a professional athlete, it will still be helpful in some situations

Says you're being attacked and chased by some thugs on the streets and you are required to run as fast as possible for survival.

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Quote from: las vegas baby on September 07, 2020, 02:06:04 PMIve no idea where you got this done, but Dr. Kevin Debiparshad is board certified and American. He has degrees from Harvard and a great  Canada university and done fellowship with Paley. He uses newest and minimally invasive technology. He is confident of this procedure enough to bring it to main stream attention.

He went to "DOCTORS" TV show and presented a patient to a live audience. You have to be really confident about this to do that. He has done interviews with major media outlets. Telling some lies to patients in person is one thing but in front a live TV audience seen by hundreds of thousands is a different matter. He is putting a lot of reputation at stake. He wouldnt do it unless he was sure.

He wants this procedure to become mainstream and not something only crazy people do. This builds confidence in the procedure. People can do it without hiding.

The only thing for me is to see "skin in the game". If he does it for himself, I Would be convinced 100%.

In fact I still have hope that he will do this some day. That he will be pausing new patients for a month or two until his surgery is done. Then it will become more mainstream.

You are delusional.
Breaking your bones and inserting internal nails or external screws and giving many dollars while in pain, risking terrible consequences (infections, nerve damage) and never being able to use your feet at 100% as you did before will NEVER become mainstream.
And I don't care what Derbipashad or some crooks all over the world (especialy on third world countries) say about LL, almost no resoectable doctor does it for cosmetic surgery and that means a lot of how risky it is and what consequences it has for a healthy person.

LL is only fir the strong, brave and most if all determined to leave behind all the social stigma that comes with a bad height on a man.
A real LLer won't care how much exact percentage of athletic abilities will lose and all these bs that people who will never have the guts to do LL always talk about.
A real LL'er finds a doctor that he can trust, gathers the money for the best he can afford (if he has a lot then Stryde, if the budget is tight then external tibias) and does it, with all the risks and knowing that he'll never be like before, from a minor degree if everything goes well to a big.
Everyrhing else is for delusionals ehi believe businessmen doctors telling them that they will be 100% like before, without risks and pain. Things that are totally bs and lies.

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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 07, 2020, 02:28:11 PMNot exactly. Some people do have everything in life. CR7 is the definition of having everything in life. Basically there are lots of tall athletes.

Athletic functions are a huge sacrifice. Even if you're not a professional athlete, it will still be helpful in some situations

Says you're being attacked and chased by some thugs on the streets and you are required to run as fast as possible for survival.

You can't have LL and a very good height with 100% function.
Thats what I was saying.
If course some men are very lucky to have a very good appearance but they may luck in braims, education etc like CR7.
Noone is perfect.

If you are attacked from thiefs, most of the times you won't run because you are risking your life.mych more.
Also, it will be better to have a magnum with you than be fast, so if you don't carry a gun you could say that you are in a disadvantage and everyone should own a gun.
All these are hypotheses.
The only way to become taller is doing LL and it is for sure that you'll lose some of your athletic abilities.

If avoiding thiefs and running fast is more important from having everyday benefits or at least don't face drawbacks for your height, then you can choose to remain as you are.
Personally, I am more than happy walking normal and running slowly at 1.76 than I ever was at running really fast at 1.68,5.

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Quote from: Body Builder on September 07, 2020, 01:15:13 PMHeight is the most important factor for a man's appearqnce fkr women and this is objectively admited from them.
Most of them prefer dark guys but some of them like blondes, many of them like muscular guys but many also like more fit ones etc but the vast majority of women agree to ine thing about men. They want them tall or at least average. That is an objective truth and if you accept it, you can see that if you are short one (like I was before my LL) anything else doesn't matter (I had expensive clothes, big muscles like now, a good face etc but at 1.68 I was nearly invisible for most of women) and LL is the only way.
But if you are at least average, things are different,although a tall height is always a benefit, but not that crucial.

Not if you belong in the normal height range, a 178cm 9/10 face will beat a 186cm 6/10 face. Of course a 8/10 185cm guy will have an advantage over a 9/10 176cm one. If you go below 175cm, it's becoming harder and harder and you'd have to make up with extremely handsome face, money and I don't fking know what else.
I'm pretty sure there's a point in height, be it 150, 155, 160cm where it doesn't even matter how handsome you are, even if you have a 10/10 gorgeous face you will take NOs from women. There's no handsome face escape latch. It's the black hole event short height reject horizon.

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Quote from: a on September 07, 2020, 02:07:41 PMCus that's how I am Tartar. Yes you don't "know". Das how 'am rollin'. You might wanna simply ignore my content. I'm a supermaniac. I'll keep asking these questions again. Tomorrow again, later, again. You'll see a lot of my stupid posts here. If only there was a blocking feature. You could simply block me and boom.

A don’t be offended, you can open many talks about it, I just say this to avoid going off topic too many times

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Guys I just think that in the life moderation is needed. You can be short, but not too short, going under 170 your appearance start decreasing, exponentially under 165. You can be ugly but not too ugly. You can be out of proportion, but not too much, not a freak. That’s all. There are some aesthetic traits for which you need a minimum value, if you don’t have this minimum value it’s very hard to compensate with your others qualities.

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Quote from: Body Builder on September 07, 2020, 02:40:01 PMYou can't have LL and a very good height with 100% function.
Thats what I was saying.
If course some men are very lucky to have a very good appearance but they may luck in braims, education etc like CR7.
Noone is perfect.

If you are attacked from thiefs, most of the times you won't run because you are risking your life.mych more.
Also, it will be better to have a magnum with you than be fast, so if you don't carry a gun you could say that you are in a disadvantage and everyone should own a gun.
All these are hypotheses.
The only way to become taller is doing LL and it is for sure that you'll lose some of your athletic abilities.

If avoiding thiefs and running fast is more important from having everyday benefits or at least don't face drawbacks for your height, then you can choose to remain as you are.
Personally, I am more than happy walking normal and running slowly at 1.76 than I ever was at running really fast at 1.68,5.

Running fast is just an example. What I'm trying to say is athletic functions aren't really something to underestimate.

And if only it's the only trade-off of LL, I probably would still do it. But apart from that,

1. It isn't free. It costs a lot of money.

2. Several months of unbearable pain. Some say it's more painful than getting hit by a car.

3. All things that can go wrong during surgery & lengthening phase: infection, fat embolism, non-union, etc. Unicorn is the best example  for this.

4. If you're lucky and pass all those, you'll still face possible long term complications: such as the one you mentioned: "premature arthritis" which among the popular ones. And the unpopular ones such as possible shortened life expectancy.

Because you said "Stretching your tissues for 6-8 cm is not a joke." Is it possible that it will cause any circulatory problems/your heart having to work harder making you more prone to life-threathening disease such as cardiac arrest and such?

5. And on top of that: reduced athletic functions (guaranteed)

Then you gain 2".

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Quote from: Tartar on September 07, 2020, 03:10:52 PMGuys I just think that in the life moderation is needed. You can be short, but not too short, going under 170 your appearance start decreasing, exponentially under 165. You can be ugly but not too ugly. You can be out of proportion, but not too much, not a freak. That’s all. There are some aesthetic traits for which you need a minimum value, if you don’t have this minimum value it’s very hard to compensate with your others qualities.

+1.
I would add that we need a better alternative for height increase.

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Quote from: O_99 on September 07, 2020, 04:57:24 PM+1.
I would add that we need a better alternative for height increase.

Yes but at least we can go for this one, once not even LL was possibile

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Quote from: Tartar on September 07, 2020, 06:00:40 PMYes but at least we can go for this one, once not even LL was possibile

Sure, but
Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 07, 2020, 04:16:45 PMRunning fast is just an example. What I'm trying to say is athletic functions aren't really something to underestimate.

And if only it's the only trade-off of LL, I probably would still do it. But apart from that,

1. It isn't free. It costs a lot of money.

2. Several months of unbearable pain. Some say it's more painful than getting hit by a car.

3. All things that can go wrong during surgery & lengthening phase: infection, fat embolism, non-union, etc. Unicorn is the best example  for this.

4. If you're lucky and pass all those, you'll still face possible long term complications: such as the one you mentioned: "premature arthritis" which among the popular ones. And the unpopular ones such as possible shortened life expectancy.

Because you said "Stretching your tissues for 6-8 cm is not a joke." Is it possible that it will cause any circulatory problems/your heart having to work harder making you more prone to life-threathening disease such as cardiac arrest and such?

5. And on top of that: reduced athletic functions (guaranteed)

Then you gain 2".

These look much more interesting imo.

Quote from: O_99 on September 01, 2020, 12:04:46 PMNot necessarily surgery related, but check out these (recent ones):

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/lsjl/the-most-important-topic-in-growth-plate-reopening-t1029-s10.html

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=65449.0

http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/08/Researchers-find-method-to-regrow-cartilage-in-the-joints.html

https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2020/08/adenosine-injected-into-arthritic-joints-produces-cartilage-regrowth/

https://www.reddit.com/r/looksmaxxing/comments/hmj34y/what_future_heightmaxxing_regimen_may_look/