10 cm on my tibias?

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    Dr Leonid N.Solomin (St. Petersburg, Russia)

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How long would that take for 7-8 cm, then? I know it's about a month per cm for traditional Ilizarov, but I'm unaware by how much Lon quickens recovery time.

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Paley may give you piece of mind and thats not to say you wont get complications with him, though the odds are probably less. But nonetheless, Paley is a complete rip off.
How is it that a doctor like say Dr Birkholtz from South Africa or Dr Parihar from India can charge roughly $50,000 and $45,000 respectively for the same Precice nails but when it comes to Paley its a hulking $100,000 to $150,000 for the same surgery....? I suspect greed being a major factor...

Paleys Precice nails must have been made from Mount Olympus by the Gods and shipped Express to him.... Cause they sure do cost hell of a lot more than others

Piece of mind is piece of mind but a RIP OFF IS STILL A RIP OFF

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I might have to do humerus lengthening of about 1.5 inches per arm with the Gnail. That would give me a 5'11 wingspan, which should also be good for deadlifts.

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Quote from: Sweden on August 14, 2014, 02:48:31 AMYour muscle will never be explosive again after 10cm.

There is do much more to it than just bones and muscles.

It's frightening to see individuals totaly believe that 10cm is easy or that they wiLL Forumully recover. Christ!!

Being stronger after LL doesn't say more than the actual person can push more weights at the gym. Anyone can do that but jumping high or doing backflips is something different which he will never be able to do again.

To kick fast is also impossible after LL or to do a spinning round kick bc your longer leg breaks up the speed when you're spinning.

Not that you need to be able to do this, but 10cm is devastating for your body. It will also look very weird.

Your assumptions are based on what? Present us some references or source, instead of acting as a self-proclaimed specialist/orthopedic in this topic. Don't  be all negative and a prick just because you failed your miserably LL journey.

It's true proportion might be out of balance. Regarding lengthening 10 cm, many doctors advocate against it. But surely its possible as I have been heard several people successfully doing it. there are no criteria to be fulfilled, you just have to gamble and hope your body can take the hit. What can matter is age, soft tissue attachment, level of physio training and what method the clinician used. Every persons anatomy is unique and unlike others. The more lengthening the more risk of complication.

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Quote from: Cain1234 on August 03, 2017, 08:09:39 AMYour assumptions are based on what? Present us some references or source, instead of acting as a self-proclaimed specialist/orthopedic in this topic. Don't  be all negative and a prick just because you failed your miserably LL journey.

It's true proportion might be out of balance. Regarding lengthening 10 cm, many doctors advocate against it. But surely its possible as I have been heard several people successfully doing it. there are no criteria to be fulfilled, you just have to gamble and hope your body can take the hit. What can matter is age, soft tissue attachment, level of physio training and what method the clinician used. Every persons anatomy is unique and unlike others. The more lengthening the more risk of complication.
Do 10cm on tibiaz and if you can even walk normally then you should consider yourself truly lucky.

If you lengthen so much you should do a massive atl to correct your equinus which means you forget anything else except from slow and unstable walking.
To make it even wirse the biomechanics of your leg will be so off that even walking could be hard.
And all these without complications like malunioms etc.

No respectable doctor will let you lengthen anything more than 7-8 (which is very much) cm in tibias.
If you are not a "prick and negative" you could do it and write your experience to us.

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@body builder

Well, I certainly have no reason to do it, but there are those who have done it successfully.  You seem not to anderstand the context of my post.

Duh, didn't I write that doctors won't recommend it? Of course there can be major complications even if you do 5 cm but chances are less of course.

You seem ignorant and negative just as Sweden. Even a retard knows that practicing martial arts post LL is plain stupidity, due to altered biomechanics. Yes! 10 cm Is way out of line but for some it's not impossible.

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Quote from: Cain1234 on August 03, 2017, 12:21:22 PM@body builder

Well, I certainly have no reason to do it, but there are those who have done it successfully.  You seem not to anderstand the context of my post.

Duh, didn't I write that doctors won't recommend it? Of course there can be major complications even if you do 5 cm but chances are less of course.

You seem ignorant and negative just as Sweden. Even a retard knows that practicing martial arts post LL is plain stupidity, due to altered biomechanics. Yes! 10 cm Is way out of line but for some it's not impossible.
Could you tell me 1 that have done it successfully?
I am a veteral LL'er like Sweden and know how difficult is to do anything more than 7cm. 10 cm is insane to being able to function normally, even walk normally will be hard.

So no, it is not impossible, even 12 cm are possible.
Impossible will be to function normally after that.
And me,Sweden and any other tibia's veteran know much better about what their talking about compared to a newbie like you.

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You revive a 2 yeard old thread for what exactly? If you can do it then go for it. Or if its not even your goal to do this amount then I dont see why you care if people think its doable or not. Here is a post from a diary of Dr. Barinov that shows the issues of pushing yourself to those limitis.

Two patients were lengthening at the clinic and the doctor told them to stop at 6cm. The doctor’s would not treat them if they continued to lengthen and even took away the lengthening keys. The patients left the clinic, got an apartment nearby and went to the hardware store and bought a spanner so that they could turn the screws themselves and continue lengthening without any medical supervision. They lengthened to 11cm and 12cm respectively on their tibias. They then returned to the clinic weeks later and expected the doctor’s to correct what had clearly gone wrong. They could barely move! They became severely depressed but the doctor’s still took care of them as best they could.

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Quote from: Body Builder on August 03, 2017, 04:44:35 PMCould you tell me 1 that have done it successfully?
I am a veteral LL'er like Sweden and know how difficult is to do anything more than 7cm. 10 cm is insane to being able to function normally, even walk normally will be hard.

So no, it is not impossible, even 12 cm are possible.
Impossible will be to function normally after that.
And me,Sweden and any other tibia's veteran know much better about what their talking about compared to a newbie like you.

Yes, I know but I cannot disclose their identities. You just have to take my word for it.

With all due respect just because you have posted some 500+ Post doesn't make you a veteran or somehow entitled physician in this field. I find you too be an extremely stubborn person. I'm just saying to stop with these negativity especially remarks by "sweden"

LL surgery is not easy and beyond 7 Cm is hard but not impossible. You need to take in consideration the clinician performing it, bone anatomy/density, muscular/tendon attachments, hormone levels, normal CBC etc. Every person is unique.

Disagree, of course you cannot practice taekwando or martial arts shortly after LL. Thats just stupid. Besides I've read that Sweden had some ankle injury which surely can effect the outcome. I've also read people walking shortly after surgery or not following doctors advice during lengthening.