9 centimeters on tibias with Dr. Barinov, Volgograd-Russia

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Quote from: ChrisIsaak on April 06, 2014, 09:41:17 PMI don't see Turkish girls in your list bro! Only when you score here will I consider you're in the advanced level   

Here you have to be tall, fit, intelligent, wealthy, romantic yet uninterested at the same time, famous, not famous, and you should be able to make pigs fly. Good luck!

yeah, i havent met any turkish girl lol but i must say i don't care about getting all girls, or being a player, because I am not. I only care to get the type of girls I like, when I want.

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Hey RG, when are you planning on coming back? How's your walking now?

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ha haah aha h aha

Very interesting mate!

Actions speak louder than words. The fact that you went to russia to break your healthy legs, walk and sleep with metal around your legs for around a year says a lot about what ypu really think about height in our society.

You have lost arround a year in your existense to be taller.

What girls think about short men is just a hint/example of what the general population thinks about short men.

at 163cm myself, i look at guys shorter than me and know i have a better chance than them in a night club or on social environment.

Taller men earn more. Girls want taller guys. the list just goes on.

Dont be one of those silly guys who say they did LL for themselves. We r all doing LL to be taller and more respected on society (ie. in the worl place, with girls, etc)

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Quote from: Adriano on April 07, 2014, 02:50:24 AMat 163cm myself, i look at guys shorter than me and know i have a better chance than them in a night club or on social environment.

Taller men earn more. Girls want taller guys. the list just goes on.

Dont be one of those silly guys who say they did LL for themselves. We r all doing LL to be taller and more respected on society (ie. in the worl place, with girls, etc)

Amen to that, imo anyone who says otherwise are only lying to themselves, otherwise why on Earth would anyone put themselves through this crap. Rather spend that money on a nice car, holiday or save for a house deposit, not pay ridiculous amounts of money for someone to break your legs and be in pain/disable to lengthy period of times.

Unless you're a rich millionaire with neverending cashflow then you could be a 150cm man for all they(women) care

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 I know for a fact that I live in my own world)) my reasons for LL go way farder than just being taller.  Being taller helps in our society I never said it doesn't. In general, I always want to look my best, and I think everyone should.

And like Adrino said, actions speak louder than words. So at 163 I was getting the same things in life that im getting now. So I don't see how much height is helping me. That's jus my reality,  and I think very few people would relate to me. This is my truth what can I say. Im not speculating or making hypothesis,  im just talking about my reality. And im sure im not the only one. However, I do believe im very lucky in life.

Again my opinion is purely base on facts, on my own reality.

Btw, I care about my appearance a lot)) but I just don't let it interfere with what I get in life or how I live my life.

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RGKEY,

You're not alone. I also agree with you that I haven't seen a difference in the way people treated me at 165 cm and at 172 cm. I haven't noticed any "extra respect" of any sort, everything is completely normal. Perhaps I didn't have enough time / went out much as needed yet to truly put it to the test, but I don't expect a huge change either. I mean, if someone didn't like you before LL, chances are they still won't post-LL, and if someone already likes you, it's likely that you won't see a change in their attitude as well. I stand "tall" even though I'm still relatively short; I have a lot of extra confidence now, but it's less due to the added height and more due to what I went through to earn it. Still, the extra confidence doesn't mean I'm now going to get everything I want. It means, however, that even if I don't get what I want, it'll be easy to move on since I won't be blaming my stature for things with possibly much different reasons.

I also want to look my best at all times. When I look into the mirror I'm very happy to see my new legs, but I'm not satisfied with my face. I've lost a lot of weight during LL, but I need to shed some weight from my face as well - which means that I have to keep losing weight while maintaining a balanced diet. My new goal is dropping 10 kg's before summer. Am I doing this to attract women? Not really, I mean not all women, I'd be more than glad if I could attract the only girl I want to be with, to get together again more precisely. "I'm doing it for myself" is a logical claim if you're feeling good about yourself at the end of everything. And isn't that just what we all want?

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Quote from: RGKEY on April 06, 2014, 05:51:57 PMshorter guys have a disadvantage absolutely but not from looks but from confidence!!

I have scored with:

Americans
Latin american girls
Sweden girls
thai girls
jamaican girls
russian girls
ukranian girls
belarussian girls
germany girls
canadian girls
australian girls
japaneses girls
oh and 1 nigerian girl lol

for the most part taller and better looking than i am. So if i could everyone can!!

Girls are the same from almost any nationality!!

Well lets put it this way, shorter guys have to compensate their shortness by being more confident and having other things to get the girl compared to the tall guy who needs less of everything else. Some cases the extra confidence wont be enough though.

Also you are talking about scoring with girls, which i agree is quite easy even for us average guys. However when getting a lasting relationship, and if you want a real hot girl, then you need lots of everything (unless you are either really rich, famous or lucky)

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chriss:: agree with you)) yeah looking good always makes me feel pumped!)) like im the man haha))) i tell that to my self everytime i see me in the mirror))

wannbegiant::: agree. ofcourse guys with not good or even average appearance have to compensate with personality. But even more important than personality is "vibes" what you convey as a person, and understanding of people in general. When I said scoring i ment from random hook ups to potential serious relationships. But right now I dont feel like committing to a relationship, maybe tomorrow ill change my mind. But I know i can if I want to. To me a long term relationship has nothing to do with game, it has to do more with 2 people really connecting in so many different deep levels. Confidence is not enough!!! of course not. confidence is way over rated my friend. Confidence can come and go like the wind. But your vibe and your social skill will always be there, having an understanding of people is the key.

what she says vs what she does.

for example, me at 163:

I meet a girl, at first she is kinda bitchy and probably not attracted to me, because she is used to date super tall handsome guys. she doesnt need a guy like me. But i buy time and she start getting comfortable with my presence, well then I move on, and test what behavior she starts accepting from me, in her mind she doesnt like me, but then all of the saddle i hold her hand, i give her hug, then a kiss, the we walk holding hand, then we make out. and then she will still tell me, oh my god i can't believe I just kissed you, "you are not so my type" i heard that s**t all the time. well i said "you must like me then" then she agreed with a smile, then we go on a date. now she is not only attracted to me subconsciously but also consciously. then we have an amazing time together and realizes that she is not the only woman in my life (that's called pre selection) and she sees that despite of my height I have many pretty girl friends around me. She knows that I don't need girls in my life, i want to be with her which is different. Women are way more social intelligent than men( and subconsciously looking for survival). What really attract women is a real man. Now, that been said: do i get rejected?? of course i do!!! but not even 50% of time maybe out of 10, 2 or 3 will reject me but who cares, I don't, i just move on, there are so many hot! smart sexy nice girls in the world to worry about just 1. Even model looking guys get reject so why would I feel bad about that? rejection is just part of life))) it doesnt mean s**t, how you deal with it is what it counts))

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Well honestly i havent really ever aggressively pursued a lasting relationship with a hot girl before, usually even if im doing well with her (kissing and feeling a large mutual attraction), i dont go all the way because i know i will have to work so hard for it since these girls have so many guys competing over them. I realize that eventually you will have to work hard but its not worth it if some other taller guy can come into her life and take over without having to work nearly as hard. I also realized that there is no point in a relationship before im done with LL, you need to be happy with yourself if you want such a relationship to last.

So while i might have a chance with those girls for long term, i rather be as good as i can be so i dont have to feel like im dating up in the foodchain, i rather want it to be like im as much as a catch as the girl is. So she realize that she also has to work a little because i have many options too.

I guess what im saying is that in my experience, quite a lot of girls seem to find me attractive, problem is that usually there is another guy or several other guys involved that has more leverage than i do. (taller, more status etc) It simply feels much better going into this game of competition when you are at a more level playing field.

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height is very important...  and women value looks just as much as men... These are facts, and no amount of positive thinking or confidence is going to change  these things...  If you are 5'6 or below, and the most confident guy in the world, you're still going to have a much lower pct with girls than even a 5'9 guy

And adriano is 1000000%  right....  We are getting told that we should be happy with who we are, and  height doesn't matter, from a guy that broke both of his legs and lengthened his tibia 9 cm... which is a lot....None of us  is secure with ourselves or our height, otherwise we would not be breaking our healthy legs to get taller. A confident person does not do this.