Quote from: zaozari on February 19, 2022, 03:24:45 PMNo, I can't believe that, altough the answer to your question is a mystery to me (I'm less than 155 cm...)I agree on all that you said in addition to the fact that some extremely short patients are reluctant to reveal their heights even on this forum. We are fortunate and unfortunate at the same time enough to live in such a crapty era when the importance of height increases as hell to a way higher degree than when we are suffering from World War and similar times. But we are glad to be born after Illizarov who invented the limb lengthening surgery to save our short males' lives and as long as we are rich enough we can have opportunies to change our lives otherwise maybe I've way earlier killed myself or conducted other extreme self-damaging behaviours. So I can totally relate to all of your statements Sir.
In fact, at the beginning, CLL was simply medically "forbidden" to any healthy person. Then, CLL was accepted very hardly only to people less than 5% shorter than the average population. More often surgery was done even less, only to people shorter than 2,2/2,4%, average (which is around less than two standard deviations of average). Doing otherwise was not allowed by Medical Councils and sometimes even by law, if that low stature was not associated with a pathology.
Even Ilizarov only lately in his career started to accept CLL but only "desperate" cases of purely very short stature and he had some problems with that (he almost only treated handicaped soldiers and other crippled patients).
Then, he came to teach surgeons in the West with the aim of also treating diseases and orthopaedic problems. But then things start changing much further, the procedure start being known because it was like a medical miracle (some almost 100% amputated limbs were recovered), and by huge pressure of people with height neurosis mainly, also due to some doctors"s greed, less ethical or absence of regulations, the industry of CLL started to flourish.
Now, I won't tell anymore because we enter in the subjective field of evaluation and treatment of height neurosis, body dysphoria, constitutional short stature, idiophatic short stature, standard deviations, averages, Hypocrates principles ("do no harm"), etc.
But the question you asked is a true paradox and mistery for me.
Is it that very short or just short people learn to adapt themselves soon and paradoxically are less neurotic or height becomes less important? Or contrarily are they so neurotic that they don't search or know about LL? Or are they more discrete, inhibited to comunicate? Is it because, since they are smaller, they have less margin to grow? No, definitely not this one, because short people have also relatively shorter legs, specially tibias, even if they were to lenghten less cm....
Because after all, they (like me) should be the bigger source of experience and information, as patients, of CLL. The most probable users here in this forum...
Quote from: Chinese Actor on February 19, 2022, 03:25:45 PM50分和60分有本质区别，又可以没有本质区别，其实最主要的还是手术安全性，我不赞成做太多，如果我165我会选择5+5的双断方案50分60分？
Quote from: zaozari on February 19, 2022, 11:55:53 PMI understand your suffering, it's very clear. And no, I wouldn't recommend a therapist to solve the problem because from my long experience with therapy and from your words I can see you need CLL.I watched Cy4borg's life vids and Paley himself also thought Option 5 is the safest way to achieve 8+8cm goal and of course Cy4borg thumbed this option up as well.
However there are two issues I would call your atention to. I think:
1-You should keep calm and avoid unreasonable goals at all costs. Don't go just for the surgeon word or your gut.
2-Start anyway therapy right now, during recovery and still sometime on. You need this "supplement" to LL, to get some ideas clearer in your mind and to a certain extent, don't get my words wrong, you are in a state of desperation. You need help, not only to accompany your LL process and its challenges but also to ring any danger bell we all may live a moment or other in life.
Quote from: southamericanrocker on February 20, 2022, 01:33:00 AMI'm exactly 160cm and not afraid about sharing my height lol. I feel a lot of people here are mostly passive users (like me). I've lived all my life being the shortest guy wherever I go, so I got used to it but it's still being an annoying feeling. I know is hard for most people that has the same height than me, and I've even found myself lying about my height on dating apps because girls are kind of strict about their height preferences. That's why I don't like dating apps and prefer to meet people in person by going to dance clubs or bars. I guess for the moment all I can do is to compensate my height with my personality and getting bigger at the gym.
I could afford to get the surgery done now, since I'm a Software Engineer in a big tech company, but the problem is that I will end up spending most of my savings if I do it now. I learnt to live with this and to be patient, because I think that isn't a smart financial decision to get surgery done if I can't afford it without getting hit hard on my financial situation. I'm saving most of my income so I can invest my money in real estate, and get the surgery done when I'm 30 (I'm on my mid 20's right now).
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