Betzbone or Precise?

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Posted on Aug 28, 2024, 3:36 pm

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Hi Everyone,

I did some research and I am currently considering doing this surgery with either the Betzbone or Precise. However, I noticed that many people on this forum do not have a good opinion on Dr. Becker whilst others praise him a lot. In general, I can‘t see a reason for not using a full weightbearing nail, as it provides you with the opportunity to walk without crutches, or did I miss something? Feel free to enlighten me.

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Joe

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Posted on Aug 28, 2024, 7:04 pm

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Depends on your lengthening goals. Everything else is the same except weightbearing. Betzbone is also pricier.

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Posted on Aug 28, 2024, 7:28 pm

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Betzbone like all mechanical nails is an obsolete crap.

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Posted on Aug 29, 2024, 9:41 am

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Can you maybe explain why?

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Posted on Aug 29, 2024, 3:10 pm

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Quote from: Talljoe on August 29, 2024, 09:41:15 AMCan you maybe explain why?

Because the lengthening procedure is barbaric and painful, they don't reverse and they are prone to accidental lengthening. Also they take longer for the bone to heal.

Even though they are full weight bearing they are no much forna good magnetic nail like precise 2.
If we have again a magnetic nail with full weight bearing capabilities then betzbone and all these albizia cr*ps will cease to exist.

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Posted on Aug 29, 2024, 4:35 pm

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Precise Max is now available in the USA. In Europe it seems that it will be available in 2025, so the price difference would be huge. It is true that betzbone tend to accidentally click on it. Dr Becker says it in a video. I am going to see how a guy I met in Germany finishes his lengthening. And then I will draw my own conclusions. At the moment, in case anyone wants to take a look, I am thinking of going to South Africa with Dr. Birkholtz. Of all the ones I have seen, along with Paley and Lee, there is sure to be another one there. They are the best in this type of cosmetic procedures. In South Africa, the prices are relatively cheaper than those of American surgeons. It is advisable to be in South Africa during the entire lengthening process.

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Posted on Aug 29, 2024, 5:58 pm

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Quote from: Body Builder on August 29, 2024, 03:10:22 PMBecause the lengthening procedure is barbaric and painful, they don't reverse and they are prone to accidental lengthening. Also they take longer for the bone to heal.

Even though they are full weight bearing they are no much forna good magnetic nail like precise 2.
If we have again a magnetic nail with full weight bearing capabilities then betzbone and all these albizia cr*ps will cease to exist.

Have you done LL with Betzbone or where did you get those fake news? I can tell you from my own experience. That it was not barbaric painful, it does not take long for the bone to heal (in fact through the early mobilization my bone has healed very good), the accidental clicks are very rare (my two hand full clicks have all been my own fault). The main benefit of the Betzbzone is that it is weight bearing. If anytime precisemax came out it will be an equal good alternative. Until that there is no choice for precise although you just want to lengthened short amounts (3-5cm) in femur

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Posted on Aug 29, 2024, 6:26 pm

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I am going through this procedure with betzbone right now. I think it’s very good you are still mostly able to do your daily things. You are not that much restricted. I am now 1 1/2months in and just had one accidental click. Actually they can turn the nail back but by operation. But under normal conditions there shouldn’t be any need for that.

Because it’s weightbearing you can go like eat ice cream in the summer or drive with the car to somewhere. I mean you want be able to pick up heavy things but you are as near to normal as you possibly can I would say.

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Posted on Aug 29, 2024, 9:26 pm

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Quote from: Taller90 on August 29, 2024, 05:58:04 PMHave you done LL with Betzbone or where did you get those fake news? I can tell you from my own experience. That it was not barbaric painful, it does not take long for the bone to heal (in fact through the early mobilization my bone has healed very good), the accidental clicks are very rare (my two hand full clicks have all been my own fault). The main benefit of the Betzbzone is that it is weight bearing. If anytime precisemax came out it will be an equal good alternative. Until that there is no choice for precise although you just want to lengthened short amounts (3-5cm) in femur

I have an experience of more than 20 years in LL and I'vre read diaries and speak with hundreds of LLers, except from the fact I am a veteran myself.
Everything I wrote is true, many LLers weere ruined because the albizia lengthened on its own, also many had non union or very late consolidation due to this cr*p that needs to rebreak each time the bone to lengthen.

A full weight bearing magnetic nail will not be equal to betzbone but like comparing a new car with a wagon. But still some doctors like Becker and Guichet will use it because they can earn much more money by using a cheap obsolete nail compared to a new one and still charge the same.
Precise 2 is a much better nail although not weight bearing and most LLers lengthen 7-8cm, not 5 as you said, uding it.. Stryde or Max are so much better that there can't be even a comparison.

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Posted on Aug 30, 2024, 12:39 am

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Hi all, I am a long time watcher…. And I had the BetzBone surgery in January 24 on my femurs. I finished lengthening in May, doing 7.2cm. I can offer no other opinions on other methods. My experience has been great, with Dr Becker , his team, the facilities and after care ( I only stayed one month under direct supervision). I am going back in Jan 25 with to do the Tibia for 5cm….. that speaks volumes about how I feel it went! I am much older (decades) than vast majority here. My bones are healing great, walking well without crutches since July.

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