Big D is Growing - PRECICE 2 Internal Femurs - Dr. Paley

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Thanks for this info, its what I needed to hear. I had heard rumblings about PRECICE failure's and would definetly not feel good about cutting another massive check just to get what I paid for. The PT stuff is very interesting- It sounds like it is covered 100% by my insurance, although it sounds like I only get 60 outcalls a year. Not sure if there's a place in the area where I could do incalls.

This in conjunction with the discount could make Paley much more affordable than I'd thought. Just to confirm, this kind of PT is consider rehabilitative PT right?

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Programdude, you feel like a smart and cool person.

Any tips on how to get money online or any way possible? If you have any job, i repeat anything i would gladly take it.

Job is not an option since im not going out there again it's too vicious and i im here so that i can get LL then get a job as a confident person who is more than likely to engage in social interactions.

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What kind of savings do you have?

I want to be discreet so I can't say exactly what I do, but its very related to aesthetics and not too much to do with programming(ok I do build websites).

I think LL is affordable in general, but I do feel safer going with the best. I'd say shoot for bejing if you are having money troubles- I would probably go with them if I was only doing one surgery to be honest, but I think femurs internally followed by external tibias for a smaller gain is the smartest way to go about things.

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Quote from: programdude on May 15, 2014, 01:35:46 AMWhat kind of savings do you have?

I want to be discreet so I can't say exactly what I do, but its very related to aesthetics and not too much to do with programming(ok I do build websites).

I think LL is affordable in general, but I do feel safer going with the best. I'd say shoot for bejing if you are having money troubles- I would probably go with them if I was only doing one surgery to be honest, but I think femurs internally followed by external tibias for a smaller gain is the smartest way to go about things.


I wasted all my savings and money gained on weed these last 2 years as self medication and escapism...it worked wonders but as it is obvious i am still where i left off. And then i found out about LL  . So am kinda depressed but there is light at the end of the tunnel and i am a lion i will do alot of things to get what i want. but unfortunately social interactions for now is my kryptonite.

That Beijing place you mentioned thats dr.xia right?. yes that seems like an amazing place. I like chinese people in general very intellectual an calm aura. What do you think the total price will be there though.
Why does everything have to be so damn expensive. Not everyone was born with a job from a contact or something. There is people who actually struggle that don't even have a job.

Also i will be lengthening my tibia since that is safer for me, thinking about mobility while being bed ridden for 4 month. Femurs inside have alot of blood thingy going on and is the biggest muscle on the body. You should think twice before messing with that.
unless it's internal method than it's all good.


i don't know man i just feel lost as it is. been looking now for the last 2 weeks ways to get loan from banks. Not asking for much just 100 000:- Hell people take out 200 000:- just to buy a fast car.

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I want to say a few things.
First is that even if you feel hopeless, self improvement can do wonders. I'm 5 8 which is taller than several here, but I had a rough childhood in general. I was plagued by headaches and depression and therefore did awful in school. My family was/is very poor so I knew college wouldn't be realistic. I was blessed with facial aesthetics which got me girlfriends etc. but my confidence and life trajectory was shi*, but then I thought outside the box, got in shape, and started a business. I have a new audi, good income, friends, and a satisfactory love life. I also have about 160k saved so I can put it towards this operation. Now, if you had asked me even two years ago if I thought I would be in a good place, or in a position to spend this much to change my height the answer would be absolutely not.

But the other thing I want to say is that LL will NOT fix your life just like that. Sort of like how I thought getting in shape would fix my other insecurities but nope here I am wanting my height upped. You will not suddenly have all the things you want in life just because you are taller. Therefore I don't believe LL is something you should take a loan out for. You should get yourself to a place you are more happy with, have the cash outright, and do it as an addition to an already good life.

But at the end of the day it is a personal thing. I don't know how tall you are or how much it bothers you. If your life is in ruin because of it then maybe I'm wrong and it is worth it. I just know that I've gotten where I am by avoiding debt at all costs.

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Mis-interpreted what Stadiometer said, please refer to his following post:

Quote from: Stadiometer on May 15, 2014, 12:33:21 AMTo avoid confusion please re-read the original post:

The savings I describe above come from having a private physical therapist who accepts your health insurance come to your home/hotel, or you go to their center instead of having your physical therapy at the Paley Institute.

Patients are not required to have their physical therapy at the Paley Institute, it is offered to cosmetic patients as a way to increase safety by having physical therapy from therapists who have a tremendous amount of experience with limb lengthening patients.

It is my understanding that cosmetic patients can not have their physical therapy covered by their health insurance at the Paley Institute.

I called the office and they said I would have to confirm with Dr. Paley if I could use my own PT and have it covered by insurance.  Their concern is that because my injury is caused by cosmetic reasons, that I won't be able to get PT covered.  I just emailed Dr. Paley and will update with his response.  I'm also going to see if he recommends against hiring a PT that isn't experienced in handling LL patients.

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Hey there BD,

I was wondering if you could go into the payment/financing a bit more. Did you pay it as a lump sum, or did you finance? Paley is on top of my list right now, but I don't know if I can scrounge up $170,000 to pay all at once. If you went down the financing route, how much are you paying monthly?

Thanks, and good luck with your continued recovery!

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Quote from: BilateralDamage on May 15, 2014, 05:43:29 PMMis-interpreted what Stadiometer said, please refer to his following post:

I called the office and they said I would have to confirm with Dr. Paley if I could use my own PT and have it covered by insurance.  Their concern is that because my injury is caused by cosmetic reasons, that I won't be able to get PT covered.  I just emailed Dr. Paley and will update with his response.  I'm also going to see if he recommends against hiring a PT that isn't experienced in handling LL patients.

Will love to hear about PT options...I do have coverage as well.

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Paley's exact words:

QuoteI highly recommend against that. it would almost be a waste of time to work with PTs who don’t know limb lengthening.
Worry less about the cost and more about the safety.

It sounds like it is possible but he's highly against it.  I'm inclined to agree with him and will stick with what I have.  But I'm sure he'll allow it if you're still interested.  Email him to find out the costs saved.

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For this kind of money and the fact that you're 5'8 you should go for 4 inches and hit the 6'0 spot. Then you're set for life.