Anything else fot geting taller except from LL is tenths of years ahead from present and none of us would live (or be in an age that height will make any difference to us to be more exact) to do it.
Only gene therapy to infants is something that can be done, for grown adults like all of us here believing that there will be something that can change out heights by making our bodies start growing again is completely utopic.
So all these researches, especially when they are so expensive, won't benefit any short man.
Better is to do a research to have sooner a full weight bearing internal nail with high reliability so as to walk unaided only a few days after surgery.
Any short adult should not wait for anything more than that for the next 20-30 years.
(Bio-)medical height increase research projects
Dear The Dreamer and FDR 101,
I am very sceptical, that a large community would be interested in donating 100 dollars. I have been talking about this project for many years and currently only three other people support me actively. Probably it will be even more difficult to find people, who want to invest money, not time.
Nevertheless: if at least 20 people on this message board would be interested in donating about 100 dollars, I will try to find a new research project, that can publish some details in the internet.
SO EVERYBODY, WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING INNOVATIVE HEIGHT INCREASE RESEARCH PROJECTS WITH A SMALL DONATION, PLEASE WRITE A SHORT MESSAGE IN THIS POSTING.
As I already said: I think, that there are several new researchers, that may be interested in using their technology platform for the indication "bone lengthening and height increase". And maybe I find a researchers, that doesn´t want to protect his ideas with confidentiality agreements. Of course the money must be given directly to the researcher. The "Biomedical Growth Research Initiative" still won´t accept small donations. This is the best way to prove, that we are a serious project and no scam.
Best regards and thank you very much for your ideas
Harald
Quote from: Body Builder on January 18, 2018, 01:16:57 PMAnything else fot geting taller except from LL is tenths of years ahead from present and none of us would live (or be in an age that height will make any difference to us to be more exact) to do it.
How do you know that ? With a finaciament of 300.000€ research can make a lot of progress
It could be the starting of a new era,the crowdfunding of people wanting to solve the problem of short stature
If the first crowdfunding goes well,there will be soon multiples
It worths trying this,what we have to loose ?
What's wrong Bodybuilder,afraid of loosing 100 € ?
Quote from: The Dreamer on January 18, 2018, 06:45:38 PMHow do you know that ? With a finaciament of 300.000€ research can make a lot of progress
It could be the starting of a new era,the crowdfunding of people wanting to solve the problem of short stature
If the first crowdfunding goes well,there will be soon multiples
It worths trying this,what we have to loose ?
What's wrong Bodybuilder,afraid of loosing 100 € ?
No.
I am just a realist. 300.000 is a tiny amount for having a great medical progress and making adults to grow taller again with anything else than LL is waaaay distant.
Doctors haven't even produced artificial hearts or livers etc to dontransplants and save lives, do you think that with a few thousand of dollars could make people grow up again?
This is evem harder!
Anyway all these are really futile.
The only way to become taller is LL and with full weight bearing internal nails things will become better than ever. This is enough for me and the only real solution for at least the next 20-30 years.
If someone wants to wait for new research and become taller non invasively it is his choice. But no, I won't give money for something so distant. In aboutb2 years I'll do my second LL and I don't care what will be done in the future as I would be too old to care.
I care about my present.
Bodybuilder you are right that we cant put all our eggs in his research. Doing the surgery should be the main focus in this quest to gain height. But 100$ is insignificant so if someone wants to donate it, then they are not losing anything with doing that. We don't know what besides surgery could make a adult taller, the answer might be more simplistic than we imagine, and any research going into providing a alternate solution is a worthwhile endeavor.
Double leg transplantation was done for the first time in 2011, in Spain. However, the patient had to take immunosuppressant drugs for the rest of his life to be able to keep the legs, due to biological rejection. Eventually, he got a serious enough disease that forced him to stop taking the drugs and also to amputate his legs again. Currently, we can barely grow a functional organ in vitro. Maybe people who want to be taller (or shorter) will just grow new legs and transplant them onto themselves 300 years from now; who knows. It's just not something that can feasibly happen in our lifetimes.
As for gene therapy, I'm more hopeful, but not for myself. I can see it happening to children in my lifetime. Short parents won't be forced to have short sons if they wait enough.
At the end of the day, Harald, only you and a few other persons know the details to those research projects. Only you can tell whether those projects seem promising or if they're just scientists interested in trying out something new, but with very low chances of amounting to something. Not that I don't support investing in niche or unconventional scientific research - I'm just saying.
If we really want to help everyone be taller, maybe we first need to tackle bigger problems like malnutrition, which has an immediate impact in addition to increasing height over time. For the time being I'll get CLL, consider growth hormone therapy for my hypothetical children, and donate for access to clean water.
Quote from: Android on January 19, 2018, 06:19:39 AMIf we really want to help everyone be taller, maybe we first need to tackle bigger problems like malnutrition, which has an immediate impact in addition to increasing height over time. For the time being I'll get CLL, consider growth hormone therapy for my hypothetical children, and donate for access to clean water.
People who are short relative to their population will always exist, no matter if we have solved malnutrition or not. Height distribution works on a bell curve, so there will always be people below average height. Even if the average height rises to 190 cm, there will be people who are "only" 175 or so and experience discrimination, low self-esteem, etc.
Quote from: Android on January 19, 2018, 06:19:39 AMIf we really want to help everyone be taller, maybe we first need to tackle bigger problems like malnutrition, which has an immediate impact in addition to increasing height over time. For the time being I'll get CLL, consider growth hormone therapy for my hypothetical children, and donate for access to clean water.
Is this a joke ? Height is almost all due to genetic,malnutrition can take away max 1 cm,not more
If your relative are shorts,you will be short even if you will have the best nutrition in the world
I can't believe there are people willing to pay 10.000€+ for a procedure like LL but not donating 100€ for a future hope
Quote from: The Dreamer on January 19, 2018, 11:21:22 AMIs this a joke ? Height is almost all due to genetic,malnutrition can take away max 1 cm,not more
What a load of crap. I wish people would stop talking about something that they have no idea of.
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