Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on May 02, 2020, 10:03:45 PMHow tall are you today, 0live?
164cm I believe (that sounds very exact but it was just what a nurse told me from a few years ago and I've just assumed it's still right (I definitely haven't grown since though))
Quote from: Batu on May 03, 2020, 04:12:34 AMMost of this can be explained by human nature imo, we're hardwired to be constantly innovating and pushing the boundaries.
You can see it on this forum. The majority of the time people are trying to get to that "next level". Those who are on the lower end of "normal" (around 5'4-5'6) want to get to the lower end of average (5'7-5'9), those who are 5'1-5'3 are trying to get to the "normal" range (5'4-5'6) and then you have those who are at the lower end of average who want to end up above average.
Your desire to have 2 healthy legs is much more understandable but I believe that it's the same bioligical function that is driving those on here who are also somewhat dissatisfied with their bodies.
A lot of innovation starts off focused on a small area and expands until it is available for the masses. From the computers that used to take up an entire room, to IBM's business focused computing, to the personal computer (originally available to the middle class upwards in developed nations and the rich in developing nations) to almost anyone in the world having access to an extremely powerful computer in their pocket.
CLL is just another extension of this. Likely this procedure will become very popular and as more money is driving into the industry it will improve the speed innovation and the costs will come down. This will then benefit those who were born with defects, in horrible accidents etc. and can also help the average person feel better about themselves.
I would try to think about it like that, this is a good thing for all. It's easy to understand why this would frustrate you but the same frustration is likely felt by someone who is born 5'1 when they see someone get some other type of cosmetic procedure. Imagine seeing a Tom Brady get something done to himself - 6'4, top level athlete, good looking and smart - but he (or someone else like him) wants to improve himself and his life just like anyone else.
For somebody who thinks this will significantly improve their quality of life/happiness, if they can afford it and they think the technology has reached a point where the risks are worth it - they should strongly consider it and not feel bad about doing so.
I mean my desire to have two healthy legs is so I can go on a hike if I want to or do sports without having to make sure I have enough food for dinner before hand (or having to decide against doing an activity because I have to cook dinner that day). I'd say the desire to not be in pain all the time isn't quite the same thing but I get what you're saying.
I do appreciate the fact that things becoming more popular can help improve things though! That has been my main justification for not being too annoyed when I've seen threads here that at least it helps improve this surgery. I don't think internal nails work on children since they're still too wide but maybe they'll get to that point. I really hope so. I've been told that the surgery has improved enough that some of my more recent surgeries are technically more painful than LL (they definitely weren't more painful than LL when I had to do it though) so that is nice to hear.
I think my frustration is more towards the fact that this surgery can be horrific and traumatising but some people are doing it by choice, despite the risks. And those people are also having a far easier time. I really hope it works out for everyone and they do get the benefits out of it because I would not want anyone to experience a lifetime of pain. It's not fun.
Quote from: 0live on May 01, 2020, 12:11:41 AMLike you’re putting yourself through unnecessary risk just to be a bit taller? It feels like a lot of you could do with therapy instead to be honest. This may come across as being quite aggressive and sorry if it does but it just bothers me a bit when I see people jumping at the chance to go through what was an awful time for meI know people who are 180-185 cm tall, I want to be like them.
I will never be 180-185 cm tall with "therapy" (brainwashing IMHO), I don't want to be short, and if I have enough money, or CLL becomes cheaper, I will do it, because I want to feel the life being taller, I am tired of being 173 cm, I don't like it, and I don't want to be all my life envying other people taller than me.
¿Risks? Maybe, but... ¿How many people rides bikes or practice extreme sports? I prefer to have other risks, also, most of risks can be under control and fixed.
I feel my short height as a body deformity.
And being short is another risk: you have a higher chance of committing suicide.
I would like to be proud of my body, and CLL is the way for that. "therapy" simply won't change my mind and my feelings about my body. ¿Therapy? Not, thanks.
Quote from: Polvorón on May 03, 2020, 08:34:01 PMI know people who are 180-185 cm tall, I want to be like them.
I will never be 180-185 cm tall with "therapy" (brainwashing IMHO), I don't want to be short, and if I have enough money, or CLL becomes cheaper, I will do it, because I want to feel the life being taller, I am tired of being 173 cm, I don't like it, and I don't want to be all my life envying other people taller than me.
¿Risks? Maybe, but... ¿How many people rides bikes or practice extreme sports? I prefer to have other risks, also, most of risks can be under control and fixed.
I feel my short height as a body deformity.
And being short is another risk: you have a higher chance of committing suicide.
I would like to be proud of my body, and CLL is the way for that. "therapy" simply won't change my mind and my feelings about my body. ¿Therapy? Not, thanks.
Hello! If you are considering suicide because of your height I would strongly urge you to get help and talk to a professional about it. I am not a qualified professional so do not want to give advice or say much more than that but most countries do have helplines you can call.
Therapy is a very helpful tool but I would say is more helpful if you have a reason you're reaching out and do put some effort into it. I would argue it's definitely a cheaper option to consider than CLL. It's been pointed out that it doesn't work for everyone which is completely fair, however if you feel your mental state is hindered this much by your height I would consider it (even just for a short period).
I would also argue this is not comparable to the risk from riding a bike and that they are separate issues
Quote from: 0live on May 03, 2020, 09:03:40 PMHello! If you are considering suicide because of your height I would strongly urge you to get help and talk to a professional about it. I am not a qualified professional so do not want to give advice or say much more than that but most countries do have helplines you can call.Not, I mean that being short gives a higher chance of committing suicide.
Quote from: 0live on May 03, 2020, 09:03:40 PMTherapy is a very helpful tool but I would say is more helpful if you have a reason you're reaching out and do put some effort into it. I would argue it's definitely a cheaper option to consider than CLL. It's been pointed out that it doesn't work for everyone which is completely fair, however if you feel your mental state is hindered this much by your height I would consider it (even just for a short period).Therapy won't fix my body. I don't want to be short, I want to have a body like other people have, I like their bodies and I would like to have one like that.
Therapy can work if your height is not your problem.
Also, going to gym doesn't work, I tried it and It did not work, muscles look good, but only if I were taller, not at 5'8'', I stopped it because I was feeling that I was wasting time and money.
Quote from: 0live on May 03, 2020, 09:03:40 PMI would also argue this is not comparable to the risk from riding a bike and that they are separate issues
There are a lot of bikers who suffer accidents, riding a bike instead of driving a car, or even better, using public transportation is a risk.
Why not tell people to stop riding their bikes, and travel by train? I am a train lover, so I am "saving risk" in transportation and I would like to "spend it" in having the body that I would like to have.
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