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Posted on Dec 27, 2017, 1:15 pm
#31

Quote from: myloginacct on December 27, 2017, 01:37:53 AMSome of you need therapy here. That will help way more with women than other things.

Sure, but why are you obsessing over this? You're 5'8. You don't even live or go through life in the same manner as men 5'5 and under.

Get the plastic surgery if you want it (that helps if done well), but thinking you need things like penile enlargement to date is absolutely crazy.


5'8 is still short where I live objectively and also my penis is average (not enough for women these days given that they can just meet some above average well hung guy).

Also I am the shortest one out of my brothers which bothers me as well.

I know what it is like to be 5'5 or under. It sucks balls honestly. My face is actually above average, but that doesn't cut it these days with women. Anyway I have a lot of work cut out for me, that's for sure.

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Posted on Dec 27, 2017, 1:24 pm
#32

Quote from: Tiger9898 on December 27, 2017, 08:54:01 AMSo. You mean that after the surgery which will make me 169 cm(172 maybe with shoe lifts), I will still have confidence problem?

That's why people need to be careful in these threads.

The CLL forums started (from what I've gathered in a few visits to old forum and elsewhere) as mostly men under 165cm looking for something that could help them avoid the heightism and discrimination they faced their entire lives. The influx of people wanting it for vanity came later.

All these posts saying "under 6 feet/183cm you are invisible to women" don't help anyone. A man going from 164cm to 170cm (5'7) will still feel a good amount of difference in his daily life.

People in the 160~170cm range have the most to gain from CLL. Even the lower end will get to 170cm. 170cm+lifts and you won't really be discriminated anymore in your daily life, which is originally what most men in these communities wanted. A lot of posters nowadays seem to be taking the notion that the standards in Dutch/Swedish nightclubs are what apply to daily life, because those places are really the only ones where you can still get called short to your face at 170cm with lifts.

EDIT: Mind you, everyone should try to accept themselves and live happily with their height before risking something like CLL, if they can.

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Posted on Dec 27, 2017, 1:24 pm
#33

Quote from: Tiger9898 on December 27, 2017, 08:54:01 AMSo. You mean that after the surgery which will make me 169 cm(172 maybe with shoe lifts), I will still have confidence problem?


That's why people need to be careful in these threads.

The CLL forums started (from what I've gathered in a few visits to old forum and elsewhere) as mostly men under 165cm looking for something that could help them avoid the heightism and discrimination they faced their entire lives. The influx of people wanting it for vanity came later.

All these posts saying "under 6 feet/183cm you are invisible to women" don't help anyone. A man going from 164cm to 170cm (5'7) will still feel a good amount of difference in his daily life.

People in the 160~170cm range have the most to gain from CLL. Even the lower end will get to 170cm. 170cm+lifts and you won't really be discriminated anymore in your daily life, which is originally what most men in these communities wanted. A lot of posters nowadays seem to be taking the notion that the standards in Dutch/Swedish nightclubs are what apply to daily life, because those places are really the only ones where you can still get called short to your face at 170cm with lifts.

EDIT: Mind you, everyone should try to accept themselves and live happily with their height before risking something like CLL, if they can.

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Posted on Dec 27, 2017, 1:33 pm
#34

Quote from: myloginacct on December 27, 2017, 01:24:37 PMThat's why people need to be careful in these threads.

The CLL forums started (from what I've gathered in a few visits to old forum and elsewhere) as mostly men under 165cm looking for something that could help them avoid the heightism and discrimination they faced their entire lives. The influx of people wanting it for vanity came later.

All these posts saying "under 6 feet/183cm you are invisible to women" don't help anyone. A man going from 164cm to 170cm (5'7) will still feel a good amount of difference.

People in the 160~170cm range have the most to gain from CLL. Even the lower end will get to 170cm. 170cm+lifts and you won't really be discriminated anymore in your daily life, which is originally what most men in these communities wanted. A lot of posters nowadays seem to be taking the notion that the standards in Dutch/Swedish nightclubs are what apply to daily life, because those places are really the only ones where you can still get called short to your face at 170cm with lifts.


170cm is wayyy too short for dating these days. You will still get openly discriminated to your face also.

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Posted on Dec 27, 2017, 1:43 pm
#35

Yes myloginacct,totally agree with you,that is what i am thinking.  People below 165 cm just want to do LL in order to feel okay. I don't believe in comments of people like Mr.handsomeh or someone else.  There is no rule written that people should be above 170-175 in order to date girls. This is just their strange way of thinking that everyone should be above 175 to date girls. LOL😁

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Posted on Dec 27, 2017, 2:00 pm
#36

Quote from: MrHandsome on December 27, 2017, 01:33:31 PM170cm is wayyy too short for dating these days. You will still get openly discriminated to your face also.


There will always be asxholes. And I did mention lifts.

But trust me, a 170cm man using lifts will get way less "short" comments than anyone at the height many here are starting at. Many of them also live outside of the US, where people tend to be less dxckheaded/care less about all this.

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Posted on Dec 27, 2017, 2:06 pm
#37

But don't LL+lifts make your legs look  so longer? I am162,5(163 morning height). I am thinking about 6,5 femur (I will be 169) and + 3 cm lifts.  But thing that make me frustrated is to end up having so long legs

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Posted on Dec 27, 2017, 2:11 pm
#38

Quote from: Tiger9898 on December 27, 2017, 02:06:28 PMBut don't LL+lifts make your legs look  so longer? I am162,5(163 morning height). I am thinking about 6,5 femur (I will be 169) and + 3 cm lifts.  But thing that make me frustrated is to end up having so long legs


Don't worry about those details. No one in the streets will be scrutinizing your legs like that. People come in all shapes and forms, and CLL is almost unknown. Even us who know about it don't wonder about people with odd proportions that we see in the streets. We just assume that's just how they are.

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Posted on Dec 27, 2017, 2:20 pm
#39

Thank mate, you really made me feel good)  In this forum, most people just consider themselves as they are expert in LL process and make people feel nervous about their height

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Posted on Dec 27, 2017, 2:58 pm
#40

We have many people who did over 6cm on their femurs, and, in their diaries, they tend to say no one really says anything about it. They seem to mostly only get questions about the scars when the pants come off.

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