the truth is men dont pick women. women pick men. if a woman is attracted to you she will let you know and will try to lock you down. if you think men chase women you are wrong. men only offer themselves to women, women then decide whether you are a good catch. with feminism women feel empowered they only deserve the best men to recreate. this is why this world is so fuked now. many men stay alone and dont have any ambition to do something with their lives. so they either suicide because of depression or only work little because they have no family and dont have to.
Dating Life Improved After New Height?
Quote from: Charizard on October 17, 2021, 03:25:23 PMIf i were you i would have saving enough money to have my surgery than searching for a girl for 10 years 
I didn’t have that much money when I was in my 20s. As a 30 year old, I finally have the money to do the surgery, and I plan to do it soon with Dr. Paley.
Quote from: TortureHuman on October 17, 2021, 11:03:20 AMUkarine women are just open, not fools. If men are short and ugly, they won't still take them into their considerations. 174-175cm is not tall and beneficial at all in Ukarine, but better than 165cm and that's true. But I gotta wonder why you said 175cm is taller than the American average height cuz their governmental medical departments dubbed 'CDC' has published in 2019 the American white men and black men are 178cm tall on average and 174-175cm is instead lower than the average.
I said that the average height in Ukraine is taller that in usa.
If 1.75 is not ok in usa where the average is about that (1.77 is very close) then for ukraine it will be much worse.
Ukrainian women and Rusian too are way better that the average american ones but they are not so easy to get them as many people think.
They care a lot about income and also they prefer rich men from their country rather than tourists. In Kiev there are many rich people, maybe mafia mobsters or oligarchs but still there are plenty with so much money that the average american or european guy can't even imagine.
And most of their women look for guys like these.
Quote from: TakingAction on October 17, 2021, 03:21:10 PMI didn’t just visit Ukraine. I live there for “3 months” as I wrote in the post as past stories, not my opinions. Just visiting Ukraine a few times probably won’t get you the results. It took me 2 months to get a girlfriend in Ukraine, and it took me 10 years to get a girlfriend in the United States. So it’s more than 700% if you use 10 years(120 months) divided by 2 months.
10 years to get a gf are way too much for any country in the world.
So even you were very bad looking and now you look better or simply you were just lucky now. But all these percentages about 700% are plain bs.
In my country in the south europe where the average height is about 1.78 for men I had more than 5 gfs even before LL when I was 1.68 and 23 yo.
Now at 1.76 I look much better but of course I don't have that much difference compared to before LL because my dating life was not bad even then. 10 years without a gf is tragic and for sure height wasn't your only problem.
And also, going to ukraine, even with 7-8cm added, won't give to any normal person a 700% increase in dating life.
In reality, good looking ukrainian women are harder to get than the average european-american unless you are rich or famous there.
And I've been to Ukraine more than 1 month in the last year and not only in Kiev so I really know what I am talking about for that country. Only the cars you see in Kiev (like on Khreshatyk street especially at night) are so luxury that only in Monaco or Dubai you would see them.
So it is not a country to find easily a good looking girl as many people believe, if someone wants something like that (although I don't think it exists now) he should go in Asia (Thailand etc) or poor countries like Moldavia etc.
Quote from: Body Builder on October 17, 2021, 06:28:12 PM10 years to get a gf are way too much for any country in the world.
So even you were very bad looking and now you look better or simply you were just lucky now. But all these percentages about 700% are plain bs.
In my country in the south europe where the average height is about 1.78 for men I had more than 5 gfs even before LL when I was 1.68 and 23 yo.
Now at 1.76 I look much better but of course I don't have that much difference compared to before LL because my dating life was not bad even then. 10 years without a gf is tragic and for sure height wasn't your only problem.
And also, going to ukraine, even with 7-8cm added, won't give to any normal person a 700% increase in dating life.
In reality, good looking ukrainian women are harder to get than the average european-american unless you are rich or famous there.
And I've been to Ukraine more than 1 month in the last year and not only in Kiev so I really know what I am talking about for that country. Only the cars you see in Kiev (like on Khreshatyk street especially at night) are so luxury that only in Monaco or Dubai you would see them.
So it is not a country to find easily a good looking girl as many people believe, if someone wants something like that (although I don't think it exists now) he should go in Asia (Thailand etc) or poor countries like Moldavia etc.
It sounds like that the ladies in South Europe like you much more than ladies in Ukraine. That's interesting...maybe I should spend 3 months in South Europe then....which country in South Europe? Spain? The 700% is certainly not bs but an underestimate because of 10 years * 12 months /2 months =60 times! so that's actually 6,000% improvement instead of just 700%.....By the way, I usually only get about 1 or 2 matches every week on dating apps in the USA, but 4-5 matches every week on the same dating apps in Ukraine. So if you look at that method, it's a 400%-500% increase too.
if you go to a poor country to find a woman, you accept to live with a gold digger.
its the only reason why women should choose you over their own men in their home country.
Some of you guys really gotta stop caring about women rejecting you cause you're short. Whats the difference in a woman rejecting a short guy versus a guy rejecting a woman cause she got small breast. We all got our preferences accept it. I know tall guys who can get girls attentions but cant keep them cause they got no game. I know short guys who can get girls but gotta work twice as hard as a taller guy. Thats just life. It's really just immaturity to reject someone cause of size. Anyone with life experience know you choose a partner based on support, positivity not based off physical features. What good are those features if the person isn't a good person. Just appreciate the fact that this surgery is around to help us with our own body image problems. Don't make changes to yourself for someone else opinion of you. Thats never ends well and rarely fixes the problem.
why are you here then? to preach to us to not do LL? lol dude get out now
Quote from: TakingAction on October 17, 2021, 07:20:38 PMIt sounds like that the ladies in South Europe like you much more than ladies in Ukraine. That's interesting...maybe I should spend 3 months in South Europe then....which country in South Europe? Spain? The 700% is certainly not bs but an underestimate because of 10 years * 12 months /2 months =60 times! so that's actually 6,000% improvement instead of just 700%.....By the way, I usually only get about 1 or 2 matches every week on dating apps in the USA, but 4-5 matches every week on the same dating apps in Ukraine. So if you look at that method, it's a 400%-500% increase too.
I was in Ukraine with my gf for business and vacation so I wasn't hit on anybody.
But trust me, after having 10 years without a relationship in usa as you said then for sure you won't do any better in my country.
Having 1 girl after a decade means nothing about ukraine and all these percentages are plain stupid.
The majority of men would have had at least 5 different girls all these years. So no, Ukraine didn't gave you 700% success nor your height but after so many years it was time for you to find someone.
@tripleogkush, I agree. And thats all these claims about "easy ukrainian women" are plain bs.
Ukrainian and Rusian women are for sure much prettier on average than the american ones. But of course they prefer a guy from there and not a tourist from the other side of the world who had 10 years without a relationship and thinks that there all women will die for him.
In reality if someone can't get women on his country then he will have a much bigger trouble geting women on an other country, unless we are talking about golddiggers.
Looks like this dating subject is getting even more replies than 2 of the 5 pinned subjects under Limb Lengthening Discussions. Thanks for all of your inputs on this subject!
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