Quote from: tallertree on October 16, 2021, 12:35:55 PMIsnt the point of being a woman to feel just like that, ie vulnerable in relation to men?
Oh you did NOT just say that
Like I don't even have words lmfao
Just... Don't say this irl you're gonna get yourself beaten up
Quote from: Elhemioe on October 16, 2021, 12:53:22 PMOh you did NOT just say that
Like I don't even have words lmfao
Just... Don't say this irl you're gonna get yourself beaten up
You said you dont want to feel smaller than men. Well most women do want to feel smaller than men, thats why the majority on this forum are willing to break both their legs.
But maybe its different as a transgender, i dont know.
Quote from: TakingAction on October 11, 2021, 03:21:47 AMHi y'all, I'd like to know how much the dating life for men can be improved after the surgery? For anyone who has improved their dating life, please share your stories by trying to quantify your improvements on numbers of the second date/kisses as well as your height increase. Thanks!
My dating life was definitely improved after my LL back in 2012 (10cm on the right femur, 9cm on the left)
I did some calculations back in 2016. I counted the number of hookups I had in the 4 years after finishing my consolidation phase (meaning, walking without crutches) and in the 4 years prior to my surgery (in January 2012).The improvement was outstanding: 700%. I'm not exaggerating.
But some context:
1 - I was in the extreme left of the normal distribution for male height (165cm) and went to average in my country, almost average in the US (174,5cm, although I'm usually 176 when I wake up). Thus, I probably was in the sweet spot to get the most amount of improvement.
2 - I grew up in a country where males tend to have natural "game". So I was pulling way above my league at 165cm already. I never had this problem of some people here of being afraid to approach girls, etc... It also helps that the average girl in my country (a 5, let's say) would be a 7,5 in the US.
3 - The extra height didn't improve the number of serious relationships - height is more of a pre-requisite for this, not the main thing. But the extra height improved the range of possible partners, as most women simply won't be in a relationship with a shorter guy. And the longest relationship I had post LL was with a 174cm girl - I doubt that would have ever happened if I was still 165cm tall.
4 - The BRUTAL rejections I'd get as as short guy (like a girl in a club saying I was half-human because of my height) simply stopped. Of course, I still get rejected but it's nothing like it was before, the rejections are always civil and polite now.
Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on October 16, 2021, 01:59:47 PMMy dating life was definitely improved after my LL back in 2012 (10cm on the right femur, 9cm on the left)
I did some calculation back in 2016. I counted the number of hookups I had in the 4 years after finishing my consolidation phase (meaning, walking without crutches) and in the 4 years prior to my surgery (in January 2012).The improvement was outstanding: 700%. I'm not exaggerating.
But some context:
1 - I was in the extreme left of the normal distribution for male height (165cm) and went to average in my country, almost average in the US (174,5cm, although I'm usually 176 when I wake up). Thus, I probably was in the sweet spot to get the most amount of improvement.
2 - I grew up in a country where males tend to have natural "game". So I was pulling way above my league at 165cm already. I never had this problem of some people here of being afraid to approach girls, etc... It also helps that the average girl in my country (a 5, let's say) would be a 7,5 in the US.
3 - The extra height didn't improve the number of serious relationships - height is more of a pre-requisite for this, not the main thing. But the extra height improved the range of possible partners, as most women simply won't be in a relationship with a shorter guy. And the longest relationship I had post LL was with a 174cm girl - I doubted that would ever happened when I was 165cm.
4 - The BRUTAL rejections I'd get as as short guy (like a girl in a club saying I was half-human because of my height) simply stopped. Of course, I still get rejected but it's nothing like it was before, the rejections are always civil and polite now.
Why 10 on one leg and 9 on another?
Won't it be better to get both legs 10 extra?
Quote from: ilovescience on October 16, 2021, 02:24:20 PMWhy 10 on one leg and 9 on another?
Won't it be better to get both legs 10 extra?
I had a leg discrepancy of 2cm (around 1cm in the femur and 1cm in the tibias) so I decided to fix it while lengthening as Dr. Betz suggested.
It was a very good decision. I still have a 1cm discrepancy on the tibias, but my back pain is gone now.
Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on October 16, 2021, 01:59:47 PMMy dating life was definitely improved after my LL back in 2012 (10cm on the right femur, 9cm on the left)
I did some calculations back in 2016. I counted the number of hookups I had in the 4 years after finishing my consolidation phase (meaning, walking without crutches) and in the 4 years prior to my surgery (in January 2012).The improvement was outstanding: 700%. I'm not exaggerating.
But some context:
1 - I was in the extreme left of the normal distribution for male height (165cm) and went to average in my country, almost average in the US (174,5cm, although I'm usually 176 when I wake up). Thus, I probably was in the sweet spot to get the most amount of improvement.
2 - I grew up in a country where males tend to have natural "game". So I was pulling way above my league at 165cm already. I never had this problem of some people here of being afraid to approach girls, etc... It also helps that the average girl in my country (a 5, let's say) would be a 7,5 in the US.
3 - The extra height didn't improve the number of serious relationships - height is more of a pre-requisite for this, not the main thing. But the extra height improved the range of possible partners, as most women simply won't be in a relationship with a shorter guy. And the longest relationship I had post LL was with a 174cm girl - I doubt that would have ever happened if I was still 165cm tall.
4 - The BRUTAL rejections I'd get as as short guy (like a girl in a club saying I was half-human because of my height) simply stopped. Of course, I still get rejected but it's nothing like it was before, the rejections are always civil and polite now.
"700%" improvement from 165cm to 174cm is amazing! Is there anything else you did besides the 9cm height increase? I'd like to know some other actions you did that help your dating life improvements, and I can share my "secrets"/stories below:
The only dating life improvement I could compare to the "700%" improvement you talked about is moving to Ukraine from the U.S. for 3 months because the ladies in Ukraine are much more open for getting together than the western ladies are. Another big dating improvement of mine is caused by reading Corey Wayne's book, but it's more like 300% instead of 700%. I even bought a used Lamborghini, which I thought that it'd increase my dating life by 10 times but only more like 2 times at most....certainly not as effective as going to Ukraine.
How old were you in 2016?
Quote from: TakingAction on October 16, 2021, 06:10:36 PM"700%" improvement from 165cm to 174cm is amazing! Is there anything else you did besides the 9cm height increase?
How old were you in 2016?
Nothing else really.
I did went back to my home country, so my 700% improvement is comparing the US (where I was living prior to LL) to my home country.
I was in my early 30s back in 2016.
Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on October 16, 2021, 09:00:31 PMNothing else really.
I did went back to my home country, so my 700% improvement is comparing the US (where I was living prior to LL) to my home country.
I was in my early 30s back in 2016.
The fact that you moved to your home country is a significant action that can affect the dating life improvement. If your home country is in western Europe, then data shows that men have 5 times easier dating life than those in the U.S. because American ladies are more proud/arrogant than European ladies. If your home country is in Eastern Europe, then that move alone can contribute 6-7 times improvement, based on my personal experiences in Ukraine.
at 6ft you can bang al women 
Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on October 16, 2021, 09:00:31 PMNothing else really.
I did went back to my home country, so my 700% improvement is comparing the US (where I was living prior to LL) to my home country.
I was in my early 30s back in 2016.
Can you still run like you used to, prior to LL?
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