These women have no idea what its like to be a minority and be short. Its BRUTAL! Dont listen to them. They are trying to talk you out of it because they dont want you to reap the benefits of being tall.
Okay first if you do the math there isn’t billions of men that are 169-170 cm out there. Second when I went to do my consultation I was told I was in the 15 percentile of men at 170 cm so you really can’t say majority of men are 169-170 cm in height lol. In high school I was the shortest or tied for the shortest in every class. Really think that even though 169 - 170 would’ve been decent or dam near average half a century ago, it is actually really short for a guy now.
Quote from: Apparition on April 20, 2019, 02:25:42 PMTwo of my best friends are tall white women (178cm/5'10" and 183cm/6'0" respectively). I confided in them that I wanted to do LL to reach 183cm/6'0" or at least 180cm/5'11" so I could stop being short and recover my self esteem and confidence. They both started trying to talk me out of it, saying stuff like "you'll never be able to run fast or exercise again if you do it", "if you're making enough to afford it you're already not one of the wage gap disadvantaged short people", "you'll still be unhappy after you do it, you'll still be comparing yourself to natural tall people and taller people than yourself", "you could use that money on yourself so many other ways", "I would feel really bad if you got crippled for life", etc.
I know they care a lot about my well being but I know for a fact they at least passively enjoy their own tall heights and as tall white women, they have absolutely zero idea what life and society can be like as a short Asian guy (...aside from a parallel dating disadvantage which is still contextualized differently because tall women are at least statistically advantaged at everything aside from dating while short men are disadvantaged at everything). I don't think it's fair for them to try to stop me considering that they're happy about being tall themselves and have never had to be way below average height, or below average at all.
I know my current height is already "not really that bad" as far as things can go, but 169cm is still only the 10th male percentile in the western world, and I was actually 165cm/5'4" for the great majority of my post-puberty life until a very late 4cm "growth spurt" got me to 169 at all.
ehm.. they are mostly right dude?
"you'll never be able to run fast or exercise again if you do it" - Correct.
"if you're making enough to afford it you're already not one of the wage gap disadvantaged short people" - Correct but dont see the point of the argument
"you'll still be unhappy after you do it, you'll still be comparing yourself to natural tall people and taller people than yourself" - Correct, many LLers come back for 2nd LL.
"you could use that money on yourself so many other ways" - Correct, a premium surgeon is like 75k$+. Could pay mortage ffs.
"I would feel really bad if you got crippled for life" - Correct. Crippled for life there are some cases, but crippled for 5-10 years there are more! so you wanna waste your peak years of your youth in wheelchair or limited functionality?
Get the feeling that the people who are arguing against it are guys 5’4-5’5 who currently getting surgery to become 5’7. Know it’s tough but got to say it, 5’7 is short too. I read some of the personals on here and from what I’ve seen guys who got surgery to lengthen to 5’7 had to go back for extra lengthening.
Quote from: Betagur7 on April 24, 2019, 12:07:05 PMOkay first if you do the math there isn’t billions of men that are 169-170 cm out there. Second when I went to do my consultation I was told I was in the 15 percentile of men at 170 cm so you really can’t say majority of men are 169-170 cm in height lol. In high school I was the shortest or tied for the shortest in every class. Really think that even though 169 - 170 would’ve been decent or dam near average half a century ago, it is actually really short for a guy now.
The world isn't your US (or whatever) high school.
Also, it's like a 5cm difference to average or really close to average in a majority of countries. If you want to live your whole life thinking of that as "really short", go ahead, be my guest.
But I don’t live in those countries tf? I live in US average height is 5’10. I plan on staying in US as well. I’m pretty sure if everyone was easily satisfied with the thought that somewhere in a country far far away there are men on average who are same height as them this forum wouldn’t even exist.
My parents persuaded me outta this surgery.
But I didnt give in.I opted to seek job in future for my surgery
Quote from: Betagur7 on April 24, 2019, 01:47:57 PMGet the feeling that the people who are arguing against it are guys 5’4-5’5 who currently getting surgery to become 5’7. Know it’s tough but got to say it, 5’7 is short too. I read some of the personals on here and from what I’ve seen guys who got surgery to lengthen to 5’7 had to go back for extra lengthening.
5'7 is short but presentable, many guys that height. 5'3,5'4,5'5,5'6 not presentable unless muscular. But yeah I'm not stopping at 5'7 either. I'm 161cm
169cm is a good height for LL it's almost 5'7 and you will probably be happy and done with LL once you hit 5'9.5 which I think is a good height to find a woman that is average height or slightly above average for a female like 5'6 5'7 and still make her feel womanly and protected
5ft 7 is typically taller than women by 3-4 inches in the west so it's a good height and it's pretty much the point where most dudes stop experiencing heightism.
Don't become too fixated on heigh in terms of numbers, be rational. At 5ft 7,in terms of attracting women, face and body becomes more important.
Also most women are bad at judging height because they view the world looking up and fail to factor in that their eyes are roughly in the middle of their head. With this in mind it's far easier to get away with adding a few inches to your height which is why every guy says their 6ft when in reality we know that being that height is still quite rare.
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