Doctors or salesmen? Cases of dishonesty in LL

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Moose is a Redskins fan, and he reminds me of the time I drove through Spokane,WA and stopped by Subways. Inside the bathroom they had a needle collections box. I think he is representative of that drug abusing locale: uneducated, depressed, maybe unemployed, and most definitely a fudge packer.

Also you guys won't believe this, but President Obama just messaged me on my positive contributions to this board.

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Quote from: Moose on December 08, 2015, 05:56:24 AMI feel like i should report your ass to spain authorities. Tax evasion is a serious crime fkboy monegal. I know who you are you dont know who i am. I win you worthless sack of crap.

im having a bad day already with the redskins losing to the cowboys you just added the fking cherry on top. Now i have somthing to direct my rage on.

I was taking the other rant you made half-seriously until I read this. You need a psychiatrist.

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Dear users

I cannot understand How moderators can manipulate This site.
Yesterday after I clarified several points to user Moose (very politely By the way) This thread disappeared from LL forum.
Today It seems they put It back But for 'some reason' with a selective mode.
They made disappear some relevant info, But decided to keep others that in my opinion contain defamation, false accusation, insults and so on. I have screenshots that proves it

Probably This went to far. Maybe I got lost in translation. I Did not thread Moose personally.
I cannot understand How a forum can publish false accusations, insults, Medical information, Medical advice by non-trainned individuals and leave It that way.
I clarified myself yesterday But apparently This is not interesting here.
Probably opinion of LL doctors (let s say me or Franz) or real patients, is not interesting here.

No problem. From now I cannot post anymore here as I don t feel as free as other 'users' whose only point is causing harm to the 'real' limb lengthening community.

Have a nice Day.

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Quote from: Bohemia on December 08, 2015, 08:43:20 PMModerators—

I have created a very diligent and consistent diary over the course of the last three months, that document my journey between August 23rd to today December 8th. I shared full honesty, including both my likes and dislikes of the experience, and also photos and *videos* of my scars, stitches, lengthening, and walking—all specifically for members of this forum to enjoy as an act of charity.

Either you ban the two users in this thread who have personally slandered me, Glenn, KrP1, Musicmaker, and Dr. Monegal, or I am going to quit my diary permanently, remove my videos on Youtube, and delete my photos on Imgur.

It sucks that the toxicity of this forum has reached this, but I will not contribute to a community where a little clique tries to insult and disparage me and my friends—all of whom lengthened beside me at MIC in Barcelona.

I give you 72 hours to resolve this, otherwise I terminate my account indefinitely, and will discourage future lengtheners from joining this forum.

Formally,
Bohemia

Bohemia think if you remove your diary, nobody knows how the doctor Monegal works, I think that the patient´s diary is the best way to knoew how a doctor works.

Its just my opinion. But all the people can split the true, the personal experience of Sweeden, Glenn, DoingItForMe with different doctors is the most important thing.

If you remowe your diary, that people will reach their goal.

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The two threads in question were temporarily hidden until the site owner could be contacted about what to do about the situation here.  The owner of the site decided that the threads should be put back, minus some of the overly-heated, hostile posts contained within.  If you feel that some relevant information was also removed, feel free to post it again and it won't be deleted.

It was also decided that free speech and the open exchange of information are valued here, which even includes criticism of doctors by laypeople.  It's up to the reader to decide who to believe.  I don't think most people were taking Moose and LLuser1 seriously anyway.

If you're unhappy that a post was or wasn't deleted, please contact one of the moderators and ask for something to be done about it.  We're open to hearing your opinions and ideas about how to make the forum better via private message.  Let's keep the forum about LL and not about what the moderators should or shouldn't have done.

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2nd Update:  Moose insulting and childish arguments with other members will be  removed shortly, sufficient time has been allowed for everyone to read what was posted for the sake of transparency.

Update:

The two topics have been merged.  Therefore the post numbers updated as follows after merging the topics.

Posts 13, 25, 27 by Moose & Tiny have been brought back.  These are the posts that were removed from the original thread.  Now everyone can read them again and decide whether they add or distract from the original topic.

Post #13 is in clear violation of the forum rules and will be removed later, but has been brought back temporarily in the interest of transparency so people can read everything as it was before it was edited.

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Quote from: musicmaker on December 10, 2015, 07:25:56 PMAfter all this, don’t you think this guy deserves to be banned? I support freedom of speech, but that’s too much, in my opinion. Just food for thought...

He is banned.

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Just a trick to understand if a  doctor (any doctor) is a serious surgeon or not: if he is too much harassing with the patient to operate him or if his main argument of conversation is the cost of the surgery. If he acts like that, he is just a business man for sure...

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Forum members should be allowed to be publicly skeptical of doctors and explain why they think a doctor might be shady... BUT they must do so in a respectful manner without resorting to profanity and name-calling.

It would be nice if people wouldn't spread rumors as if they were confirmed fact, but such is life.

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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on December 10, 2015, 07:31:02 PMHe is banned.

Thank god for that..