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Posted on Feb 6, 2016, 5:27 am
#201

Quote from: Deads on February 06, 2016, 04:32:53 AMDude.... Fk off. Sick of your posts. You contribute nothing to this board.. This post would make any new members to this forum interpret that all of crimsons health issues are because of Alex Monegal.

Quote from: Tiny on February 06, 2016, 04:42:32 AMExactly what he wanted.


Yeah totally. 100% No doubt. Scientifically proven. God-beloved. LLuser1-beloved.

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Posted on Feb 8, 2016, 2:19 am
#202

Quote from: musicmaker on February 07, 2016, 11:08:27 PM
...Dr Monegal is out of this forum now because he wants to keep his peace of mind -he's exhausted of all this drama around him-, and because he has realised this is not a good place for doctors to be in, since they get sistematically attacked by toxic people.


Thanks guys! Now we can go back to getting our valid medical opinion from our very own LL Experts.

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Posted on Feb 8, 2016, 3:38 am
#203

monegal is not even  close to being among the worst drs on this board...

and hes offered to help me out for free btw.... which is not a small thing

dr shah   just stopped replying to me long ago

any dr in india is a much worse choice... any


just look at my scar.... dont go to india...

i know i sound like a broken record,  but   don't go to india

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Posted on Feb 9, 2016, 3:11 am
#204

Hi All,

Back on October 2015 I said my farewell to LL community explaining why I didn't wanted to participate anymore. And since then I had never came back to this forum until one of my friends interested in LL, who knows my case and to whom I recommended Dr. Monegal, got worried by all the fuss driven around here by someone called LLuser1. Today I've quickly glanced through this discussion (no time nor desire to read through all the crap) and felt some urge to add my five cents.

As a patient of Dr. Monegal I am very well familiar about all the flaws of doing LL in Barcelona. In fact I had some issues up to the point I was really disappointed by Dr. Monegal. And if the readers of this thread are really interested in what kind of problems they could encounter and be prepared for in Spain, I can even count them:

- I've received only invoices which were charged by the hospital. Unfortunately, I never received any invoice for the part that I paid in cash to Dr. Monegal even-though he had been promising to deliver such an invoice till last day. I believe not only Dr. Monegal himself, but generally in Spain they underestimate how important it is to have a proper documentation for all the financial expenses in some other jurisdictions. It was not cool.

- Dr. Monegal somehow didn't return the external device that was installed on one of my legs which he had to take off to operate me. I paid the full cost of that device to another doctor in another country and wanted to utilize it by my own discretion. Unfortunately, they were "cleaning" the device the whole week while I was there and the last day Dr. Monegal was "too busy" to come and finally give the device back to me.

- I paid the hospital charges in full in advance. Otherwise they simply won't take you in. However, early in the morning one hour before my flight off Barcelona someone in the hospital tried to charge me with additional fees, that never were mentioned by Dr.Monegal. I am polite, but tough person when necessary, so I used really strong language and took off without paying those phony charges.

- I expected Dr. Monegal to contact me sooner about the missing invoice, missing device and that dishonest attempt to rob me in the hospital, however it took him about two months to finally contact me. So this is also big minus for Dr. Monegal as aftercare is no less and even more important than everyday friendly visits while you are in Spain.

As you can see I am far from idolizing Dr. Monegal, so that is why I hope even those who had been victims of LLuser1 can trust my words and turn their attention to the following facts.

Yes, from my perspective things in Spain are little bit disorganized, however еverything is comprehended in comparison and believe me: things in another country where unfortunately I had my initial LL operation are much more fked up. You've all read or can read all those LL horror stories in number of developing countries; you can't deny that Spain in comparison to them is a European country with much higher standards and practices in modern medicine. And as described in http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2723.msg43509#msg43509 I am highly satisfied with the quality of services there.

Problems I mentioned above are purely of logistical nature; I am pretty sure all them had been done by mistake, for some kind of mentality nuances and prioritizing things differently than you would expect in your own cultural environment. What is important to know and what you will feel for sure if you go there, people in Barcelona, the hospital staff are really welcoming, warm and very much empathic. And I am absolutely sure there was no shortsightedness on purpose by Dr. Monegal himself. When Dr. Monegal finally contacted me I conducted to him all my criticism, he offered his explanations and expressed his readiness to address each of the issues. The fact that there are some issues of organizational character just means there is some room for improvements for Dr. Monegal as a LL destination point.

As for the medical professionalism of Dr. Monegal I will remain thankful throughout my life he saved my left leg from strong misalignment and valgus. Thanks to Dr. Monegal I am able to walk completely normally today. In fact, after long LL period I decided to reward myself with a touristic trip and going hike a lot soon. My subjective judgement about medical expertise of Dr. Monegal is based not only on my case, but also on number of other successful LL cases in Spain I am aware of.

Quote from: musicmaker on January 08, 2016, 02:23:32 PMFor another thing, I am tired of all these accusations of being a fake. Many, many users in this forum have met me in person, not only PatientZero. You can ask Paco1, Krp1, Xavi, Crinsomtide, Cooper, Nomad, Bohemia, Glenn... and many others whose names I can’t include here because I don’t know if they want that fact to be public. Are all these people hallucinating? I don’t think so. If I didn’t care about my privacy, I would upload a recent pic of Dr Monegal and me. We are two different people, sure, and many people can testify that’s true. The level of paranoia reached in this forum is beyond description.


I do confirm I visited MIC, talked to several patients of Dr. Monegal, talked to Musicmaker and I do confirm she is a real person as well as all other patient she listed and not just another registered account of Dr. Monegal as some ill-minded persons here suggest. And there is no secret about Musicmaker's case, she told me all the unfortunate things happened to her and my impression was that if she was not confident in Dr. Monegal she wouldn't still be in the guest house, she is still there recuperating and there is no reason for others to exaggerate and bring up her case every time, especially when she asked to leave her alone. As every other doctor surely Dr. Monegal had and will have complicated cases. So what?! Go and spend twice more money with other LL doctors in US, Germany or France, nobody is making everyone to stick with Dr. Monegal. At the same time it is really ugly to punish him with this kind of persecution only because as an open-minded person he decided to stay closer and available to the community. Moderators here must've done their job with better diligence. Freedom of speech is not the same as slandering like this on purpose.

As you can see I can freely express myself as I want and I don't have fear that I would somehow be revenged by Dr. Monegal. I've listed all the real issues and not imaginary ones there despite I still have an internal rod in my left leg, which I need to take out with Dr. Monegal in couple years. I wouldn't dare to criticize him openly if he was so evil person as LLuser1 tries to picture him. Not only I am criticizing him for the flows in Spain, but also have recommended him to one of my friends who wants to go through the same procedure.

So LLooser1 and all the over paranoiac people, stop your crap about Dr. Monegal and let other sane part of LL community to decide by themselves.

I am more than confident Dr. Monegal is one of the best LL specialist in the world and his popularity will keep rising despite all the dirty efforts organized here by anonymous persons for who knows for which purposes.

I won't break my promise again and won't ever come back here. In fact I am going to change my password for some jibberish string now and forget this place for good. Peace to everyone and don't be fools in hands of manipulators like LLooser1!

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Posted on Feb 9, 2016, 3:30 am
#205

Thanks to the replies from Musicmaker and Nomad. There is a clear trend of Dr Monegal's patients talking about him in a positive light, something that would clearly not happen if he was "the new Sarin". I hope LLuser1 can now stop with the persistent comments and attacks regarding Dr Monegal and I would hope if they continue that admin will take action.

It is a massive shame that Dr Monegal has been driven off the forum, along with Dr Birkholtz his presence on the forum was immensely valuable. 

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Posted on Feb 13, 2016, 12:32 am
#206


I can’t stop Nightwish. My opinion is as important as those two people. Imo Monegal is the new Sarin because some of his patients are screwed and others have had minor problems because of bad recommendations. You should ask top doctors in the USA what they think about his surgeries.

I have no reason to question Nomad’s words. His leg may have improved thanks to Monegal. However for Crinsomtide, who did corrective as well, going to Spain was ‘a waste of time’ (his words) because of no improvement. There are always good and bad cases. Besides, Monegal tried to fix those cases by other doctors but some of his patients had to go to more qualified doctors too to be fixed. Monegal may be better than Indian doctors but not a top doctor, imo. For the same price, go to Jamal or Birkholtz. They at least are focused on patients’ recovery and don’t forget about important things, like prescribing heparine or X-rays.

Nomad made an important point. Many patients told me Monegal is a mess because he forgets about everything. He fixes appointments and then postpones them, he tells you to be at the clinic and then he doesn’t show up, he keeps changing dates of surgeries, always procrastinating.

Nomad’s case wasn’t an exception. All patients are disappointed and complain about his lack of organization. They told me it’s true he never gives invoices (for avoiding taxes according to Moose). He’s always ‘too busy’ to take care of issues he said he was going to take care of (preparing invoices, returning devices, preparing prescriptions...). And... you’ve to pay additional fees if there are complications. If you need surgery you don’t have to pay him directly, but you have to pay hospital and medicines and so on... Huge amounts. Many patients have had to pay Forteo a very expensive medicine not included. Musicmaker wrote a post in the forum about this last year.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=1898.msg30093#msg30093

Other complications not included:  the girl had to pay 1000$ for blood transfusions, for example. And living in Barcelona for more than one year. But if you don’t live in Barcelona it’s expensive too. The Canadian guy had to travel from Canada to have his screw fixed. These people weren’t offered to stay at the clinic after their unscheduled surgeries because of money... Phony charges everywhere or lack of care.

You see, Nomad’s case is one among many examples but other patients aren’t honest and don’ tell the truth. I want people to know the truth and take care of themselves. I am a valuable source of information. Please, stay tuned because I will go on posting about what I’ve seen and been told about Monegal and Barcelona if you don’t mind.

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Posted on Feb 13, 2016, 1:32 am
#207

Man, this LLUser1 guy is a hot mess, and probably the biggest whiner on this forum right now.

Quote from: LLuser1 on February 13, 2016, 12:32:53 AMAnd... you’ve to pay additional fees if there are complications. If you need surgery you don’t have to pay him directly, but you have to pay hospital and medicines and so on... Huge amounts. Many patients have had to pay Forteo a very expensive medicine not included. Musicmaker wrote a post in the forum about this last year.
 


I've never seen someone bitch so much about the doctor's fee. From past complications, Dr.Monegal has been kind enough to cover his surgeon's fees. If your nail fails, he will fight Wittenstein to have your nail replaced for free. How can you expect him to cover the hospital fee from his own pockets? Or your hospital stay, or your medication? Ridiculous expectations.

I heard Betz charges $25k for titanium nail replacements after you bend his Betzbone. He'll fk your couch and charge you another $5k while he's at it. I don't see you crying or losing sleep about it.

Quote from: LLuser1 on February 13, 2016, 12:32:53 AMOther complications not included:  the girl had to pay 1000$ for blood transfusions, for example. And living in Barcelona for more than one year. But if you don’t live in Barcelona it’s expensive too. The Canadian guy had to travel from Canada to have his screw fixed. These people weren’t offered to stay at the clinic after their unscheduled surgeries because of money... Phony charges everywhere or lack of care.
 


Double dose of whining for someone who isn't even a patient. You must be the most frugal member here if you expect the doctor to pay for your blood transfusion, flight, room and board. Maybe he'll make you breakfast and wash your ass, too. Please don't do LL.

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Posted on Feb 13, 2016, 1:54 am
#208


Quote from: PatientZero on February 13, 2016, 01:32:56 AM
I've never seen someone bitch so much about the doctor's fee. From past complications, Dr.Monegal has been kind enough to cover his surgeon's fees. If your nail fails, he will fight Wittenstein to have your nail replaced for free. How can you expect him to cover the hospital fee from his own pockets? Or your hospital stay, or your medication? Ridiculous expectations.

I heard Betz charges $25k for titanium nail replacements after you bend his Betzbone. He'll fk your couch and charge you another $5k while he's at it. I don't see you crying or losing sleep about it.


PZ, you're a pain in the ass. Birkholtz and Jamal cover all those expenses.

Betz doesnt't because he's a moneymaker but he admits he's not covering that from the beginning. I've complained about him too because I don't like he's being so mean.

The worst about Monegal is he says he will fix everything for free and it isn't true in some cases. Sometimes he purchases patients' silence (i will fix this soon but don't tell people in the forum). Sometimes he sends patients home after complicated unscheduled surgeries (no good aftercare). And he told the girl whose fitbone failed (not american guy, sorry) to pay the fixator but finally fibone sent a new implant for her.

 

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Posted on Feb 13, 2016, 2:08 am
#209

Quote from: LLuser1 on February 13, 2016, 01:54:10 AMPZ, you're a pain in the ass. Birkholtz and Jamal cover all those expenses.

Betz doesnt't because he's a moneymaker but he admits he's not covering that from the beginning. I've complained about him too because I don't like he's being so mean.

The worst about Monegal is he says he will fix everything for free and it isn't true in some cases. Sometimes he purchases patients' silence (i will fix this soon but don't tell people in the forum). Sometimes he sends patients home after complicated unscheduled surgeries (no good aftercare). And he told the girl whose fitbone failed (not american guy, sorry) to pay the fixator but finally fibone sent a new implant for her.


Find me a patient from SA (all 4 of them) where Birkholtz pays for their room and board, and maybe their Forteo too. And stop joking about recommending our members to the Ukraine please, worst advice ever.

So you took a few weeks off to do research and is now retracting some of your original stories. This is also the problem about you. You say a lot of things that are true, but you also back-track and admit to pulling stories out of your ass. The repetitiveness is getting old.

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Posted on Feb 19, 2016, 11:01 pm
#210

Quote from: PatientZero on February 13, 2016, 02:08:52 AMFind me a patient from SA (all 4 of them) where Birkholtz pays for their room and board, and maybe their Forteo too. And stop joking about recommending our members to the Ukraine please, worst advice ever.

So you took a few weeks off to do research and is now retracting some of your original stories. This is also the problem about you. You say a lot of things that are true, but you also back-track and admit to pulling stories out of your ass. The repetitiveness is getting old.


Birholtz's price includes luxury room, orthopedic equipment and all medicines. In Monegal's case you have to pay for everything (no surgeon fees but everything else or going home in pain).
You know I'm telling the truth. I don't pull stories out of my ass. I got confused with some details but that's all and when I wasn't sure about a particular detail I recognized that.

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