Doctors or salesmen? Cases of dishonesty in LL

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Quote from: LLuser1 on February 19, 2016, 11:01:31 PMBirholtz's price includes luxury room, orthopedic equipment and all medicines. In Monegal's case you have to pay for everything (no surgeon fees but everything else or going home in pain).
You know I'm telling the truth. I don't pull stories out of my ass. I got confused with some details but that's all and when I wasn't sure about a particular detail I recognized that.

When your source is a Spanish person with bad English of course you're gonna get your details screwed up.

So we've established that Monegal is generous enough to cover his own surgeons fees. What a fking saint.

You read IAmReady's diary? Paley's about to rob him for a consolidated fibula.

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Don't talk about my SOURCE, but my SOURCES. I've got details from many people.
Monegal is NOT a saint, I hope you're joking. He has two faces and some patients discovered his Mr Hyde face.

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Quote from: LLuser1 on February 20, 2016, 01:11:18 AMDon't talk about my SOURCE, but my SOURCES. I've got details from many people.
Monegal is NOT a saint, I hope you're joking. He has two faces and some patients discovered his Mr Hyde face.

We know who you get your details from broski. Just cuz you speak to 2 people doesn't mean you have the right to talk for all the patients. He has plenty of successful cases, many who will never publish their stories because of people like you.

Monegal is no saint, but he's not even close to being the bad guy you're trying to make him out to be. Nomad, a real patient, where you are NOT, gave a very accurate testimonial on what its like to receive treatment from Monegal. Even Nomad thinks you're a manipulator and a 'LLooser1'.

His complications aside, you just spent the last couple posts nitpicking on his fees when he has some of the lowest Europe. Shows how petty you are and how deeply your obsession runs.

Monegal will continue to have good and bad cases. Let prospective patients visit Barcelona, talk to the patients in the guesthouse and make up their own minds.

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More things about doctors and salesmen. At the beginning these doctors make a good impression. They portray themselves as capable, kind, and charismatic. For example, at the beginning Monegal seemed confident, friendly, funny... In the forum he deceived all members but Forcedpuberty! Another example: take a look at Masterhy’s diary and his first impressions about Betz... They were so good!

But beware!! Taking responsibility is inconceivable to these doctors. When things go well, they are happy to take the credit for it, in one way or another. If things go bad, they are never at fault for their mistakes, misfortune or misbehavior. They invariably have a valid reason, an excuse or a scapegoat. The patient is always to be blamed. They will create stories about patients not following their instructions but in fact they gave no instructions because after they got their money they didn’t care anymore. Ask Cooper and Metanoia.

When the victims start to tell in the forums how these men are behaving, the stories about them seem unbelievable. People find it hard to accept that such nice guys would act in such a nasty way but they do. When things go bad, they start their manipulations.

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Blah, blah, blah.

Couldn't get a rise out of yagen on his diary, so gotta resurrect old posts to bitch about Dr. Monegal.

It'd be funny, if it wasn't so sad.

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10)  Hogging the Forum

Constantly replying to a thread (or multiple threads) by repeating the same points and not adding anything new to the discussion. This can be annoying to other members as they keep reading the thread only to find out nothing new is in the discussion   The threads may be locked if the discussion  is going in circles.

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Quote from: PatientZero on February 13, 2016, 02:08:52 AMFind me a patient from SA (all 4 of them) where Birkholtz pays for their room and board, and maybe their Forteo too. And stop joking about recommending our members to the Ukraine please, worst advice ever.

So you took a few weeks off to do research and is now retracting some of your original stories. This is also the problem about you. You say a lot of things that are true, but you also back-track and admit to pulling stories out of your ass. The repetitiveness is getting old.

There are some horrific diaries about Ukraine

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I'm afraid to even ask, but I will.

What complications did Glenn have besides a loose screw? Can someone that is NOT LLuser1 fill me in?

Seems yagen and PZ both had good results.